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HazelEyes

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  1. Yeah so? I don't stan her for success I stan her for musical reasons. Keept trying.

    You said you have arent a Monster yet you have a Lady Gaga badge. That's the kiiii, not me.

    And I don't really care. It's just funny that it's used as insult when I've only stan for Gaga during the Spotlight, as I stated on the previous page. Reading really helps to understand things.

    Inflated Numbers? Animal has almost sold up to 4 million. If you don't believe me, check the ke$ha section. It was posted in there somewhere recently. Anyway 3.5 - 4 million is amazing considering established acts get around average 4 - 5 million.

    I didn't come in this thread to troll. Even if I did the rules say "trolling is for the battlegrounds" so what's your point?

    Billboard didn't lie thats right, thats why Tik Tok is the best selling debut, solo single and is also the was #1 on the year end charts in 2010 even though it was released in August 09 xD Keeeeeeeep trying

    I ceebs replying now just becuase I posted an opinion and its got you all riled up. Fact is, Ke$ha broke more records with that song at #1 then Mariah did with her song at #1.

    So sad Ke$ha peaked on her first single and is already irrelevant.

    And sis unlike you I don't have to cling to one single for the rest of my fave's career. We Belong Together was even more successful than One Sweet Day and broke more records than Ke$hit could dream of.

  2. It was an assumption based on your award, my bad - completely different from putting words in your mouth. Insulting me without reason for simply informing you of her actual sales (which is all that I did) and insulting me for it was completely baseless. Seriously, just think before you type because I said nothing insulting to you, and I still haven't.

    You called me a monster. Insult, insult, insult. I was merely stating the truth about not being one. (That was sarcasm)

    But in reality you said I was delusional and blinded by hysteria, who was unable to see a different view or facts straight in front of me. So quit wining and playing the victim.

  3. If you don't stan for Lady Gaga, get rid of the fucking Lady gaga award and then you might JUST realise what everyone is on about. I take it you only put it in there so you can bandwagon stan or some shit. lame.

    Sorry I haven't really been on FOTP to remove it. lol But it's quite funny you said I'm a bandwagon fan, when hypocritcal you said this:

    What record does my Mariah have though? "My song was #1 for 16 weeks and sold as much as a song that peaked at #2"

    Congratz xtina1

    My Heart Will Go On counts as a soundtrack single, not a normal single. I aint mad.

    Born This Way & Hold It Against Me both broke records. But not Ke$ha's. I aint even mad considering I stan both of them (Gaga when she's actually stanable) but yeah,

    Keep trying ny7

    fall1 fall1 fall1 fall1 fall1

  4. I have to move on? Gur your the one that keeps coming in here quoting me and Lakes. Actually, your the one that came here and revived the thread anyway. Your the one that needs to move on fall1

    Who cares what's rememberable? thats not even the point of the conversation. omg fall1

    Yes but Animal was a debut effort and was the highest selling debut of 2010. The fact that Ke$ha pulled close to what Rihanna sold with Loud, Katy sold with Teenage Dream and what Gaga has sold with BTW (I'm using the 5 million that have been released as actual figures not the 8 million gaga fans use becuase it was mentioned in an article or two) is astounding.

    Keep trying, everyone is rooting for you ny7

    So your inflated numbers are almost as good as the lowball for all the other girls. Next.

    And I'm the one that needs to move? lol You came into this thread to troll, but Billboard didn't lie.

    And at least you're making since. I don't even know what your fellow stan is talking about it. You might need to direct him on topic. It's kind of scaring me.

  5. "You Ke$ha stans are so hypocritical." You directly replied to me, and only me. You then followed this by calling me "mentally challenged" aka. retarded (which has been removed for a violation of rule 3) which was completely unacceptable. I did not attack, I called your opinion "subjective"; I have not attacked, or insulted you. You made a generalization statement about K$ stans being hypocritical, I made one about monsters.

    My main point, which has been the same all along, is don't generalize about me, or put words in my mouth. K, seriously I'm done with this now. <-- That's not meant to be rude.

    I am not even a monster. That is why I called you that in the first place. Have i made one post about Lady Gaga today? Nope, but you're feeling insecure by calling me a monster as an insult. Isn't calling me a monster the equivalent to putting words in my mouth since I don't stan for Lady Gaga. And you wonder why I started calling you hypocritical.

  6. What record does my Mariah have though? "My song was #1 for 16 weeks and sold as much as a song that peaked at #2"

    Congratz xtina1

    My Heart Will Go On counts as a soundtrack single, not a normal single. I aint mad.

    Born This Way & Hold It Against Me both broke records. But not Ke$ha's. I aint even mad considering I stan both of them (Gaga when she's actually stanable) but yeah,

    Keep trying ny7

    Except people remember the longest running #1 of all time/Song of the Decade, not You're Still The One. The Hot 100 is a combination of sales and airplay. And isn't the whole #1 vs #2 peak hypocritcal on your part because although Animal peaked at #1, albums that peaked lower have outsold it. It is what it is, just accept the fact and move on.

  7. Best selling solo single, best charting single during the digital era, and most sales of a single in one week? gur i cant deal with you. you just lost any position in this thread with that.

    You jst proved my point even more. ny2 who's side are you on?

    Yes. Shania was #2 and did have a major hit and did better then Mariah without having the 16 weeks at #1 which imply's that whether you like it or not, Mariah didn't achieve anything new with her #16 chart run. It doesn't matter about when it was, it was the same era and Mariah wasn't the first artist to get 2x Platinum.

    Ke$ha was brought in as an example, not a comparison. Someone is pressed if they choose to twist the font I write.

    I said that Ke$ha broke MULTIPLE records with her song on the chart wheras Mariah didn't. I siad that IMO, so it was even an argument but IMO that Tik Tok was more eventful because it broke multiple records and more happened with Tik Tok then with this song.

    So in all honesty my "opinion" is getting people pressed, as it wasn't even an argument to begin with. Oops.

    Hold It Against Me and Born This Way both broke records, so using your logic they were more deserving. It just shows how useless the highest single week digital sales is. My Heart Will Go On still sold more than TiK ToK even though it was released as a physical single, so in actuality TiK Tok's records mean nothing. The truth of the matter is, you come across as pressed and jealous because Mariah has the record.

  8. If you're going to make generalizations and incorrect statements about me you better be fucking prepared to back that shit up. "Comparing songs from different eras when it's to your advantage" is the closet thing you've given me to an answer for either of my two questions. An 'answer' however, that is based on (once again) generalization. I have not said anything of the sort. And no, I'm still asking the same thing:

    SHOW ME WHERE I HAVE SAID IT! Don't generalize about me. If you said I said something, fucking show me. <----- How is this that difficult to comprehend? The only reason you haven't answered it is because I didn't say it.

    I've answered this so many times. You attacked me and were bragging about Ke$ha's lackluster album sales. I mean if Animal wasn't such a flop then you wouldn't be aruguing about menial amounts like 100k or 200k. You backed up saying it was good for 2010 or whatever. So basically you brought the receipts that shaded your fave while the other stan brough the receipts for TiK ToK and proving Ke$ha's a singles artist. That's why I didn't say you specifically, I said Kesha's stans because it was a puzzle where all the pieces fit together. It's funny that you're saying Animal's sales were good for the market being down in 2010, but your fellow stan was bragging about TiK ToK being such a digital seller during the market's peak. Talk about sending mixed messages and having double standards/critiera. That's why I never singled you out, which you wanted to believe for some reason. I just thought it was funny the fellow stans were shading each other.

  9. The only "light [you] shed" was comparing a 2010 sale to 2001 and used subjective opinion based arguments.

    Let's break down your statement bit by bit:

    a)"And no 1.5 million (including Cannbial) is nothing to brag about" is your original statement. "Let's see you tried to correct my receipts when they were right." Incorrect, as they were incorrect: Animal is at 1.3 - 1.4M + 400,000 + 500,000K from Cannibal. I corrected myself once you said US sales to 1.8-2.0M US.

    b)"Sorry if I mixed you up with the other Ke$ha stan (I know it's surprising there's more than one) who was comparing TiK ToK to One Sweet Day, but got mad becuase I shed some light on Animal's album sales." So through this statement you have admitted that you insulted me for no reason and are now unable to answer my two questions:

    "Lastly, you failed to answer my original question in your 'response'. 'You Ke$ha stans are so hypocritical' - where exactly can you point" this out?" or

    Your new one: "Comparing songs from different eras when it's to your advantage." - where have I said this?"

    So what can we take from this? You turned to insults for no reason; made claims about statements that I didn't actually make; and are now unable to answer my simple question because you realize your entire font was baseless and are trying to backtrack. Unless you can actually respond with a proper argument without making lose, incorrect claims towards me then I have nothing more to say to you.

    I don't know what you keep babbling on about seeing how I've told you the same thing countless times. Instead you reply with: font this, font that. How weak can your argument be? Yet you're still writing essays. And don't even know why you keep responding or what you're trying to tell me because you keep talking in circles?

    I got my stats from the fact Animal is Platinum and Cannibal is Gold.

  10. Answer my question: "Lastly, you failed to answer my original question in your 'response'. 'You Ke$ha stans are so hypocritical' - where exactly can you point" this out?" or

    Your new one: "Comparing songs from different eras when it's to your advantage." - where have I said this?

    Instead of turning to insults please articulate an actual response instead of spitting garbage on things that I haven't actually done. Unless you have a response to my questions I'm done, bye.

    Let's see you tried to correct my receipts when they were right. And then arguing with me because I spilt some tea about Ke$ha being basic. Sorry if I mixed you up with the other Ke$ha stan (I know it's surprising there's more than one) who was comparing TiK ToK to One Sweet Day, but got mad becuase I shed some light on Animal's album sales.

  11. Comparing a 2010 album to a 2001 and a 2002 album (when albums could sell 15-20+Million), because THIS is a logical argument. Where do you come up with these? Please, inform me of your secret.

    K, now onto the second part of my statement. "Of course it'd be a Ke$ha stan who can barely comprehend what they're reading to start attacking me for being a delusioned monster" Excuse me, but I believe it was you who originally insulted me: "You Ke$ha stans are so hypocritical" - or does that not ring a bell? Comprehension, really? Comprehend this: there is no such word as "delusioned".

    Lastly, you failed to answer my original question in your "response". "You Ke$ha stans are so hypocritical" - where exactly can you point this out?

    You were the one that corrected by correct facts for the US with WW receipts. rachel4

    Sorry I don't spellcheck or reread my posts for grammar. It's the internet. xtina10

    Comparing songs from different eras when it's to your advantage.

    You can't read obviously. Shame.

    Read from the start and you will see that sales were compared to Shania, not Ke$ha.

    Let's see. You said TiK ToK was more of an event than One Sweet Day for selling 13 million than spending 16 weeks at #1. That is called a comparison. xtina10 But even then you compared One Sweet Day to a song released three years later. rachel4. You're Still the One spent 9 weeks at #2 and spent nearly a year on the chart, so it's not like it was a random Top 10 hit like you were implying. And One Sweet Day still sold more. um2 I didn't bring up TiK ToK and Ke$ha, you did. First page. Just asking to be dragged +laughcry+

    It doesn't matter how long she spent at #1, as her sales were average.

    Only 2x Platinum? That's really average for a single. Shania did it with a #7 peaking single around the same time

    I'm all for records, but unless it's like Ke$ha, 9 weeks at #1 solo and the biggest selling single from a female artist in the digital era (even though 50% of K$'s sales in 2009 were physical) then it's just as average as Xtina getting a #1 with the lowest sales for a #1

    I'm not hating on Mariah, there is nothing to hate. It's just unless you earn the sales from a #1 single, it's not really an achievement. But at least she shares a record with someone

    But I see you're already clinging to Ke$hit's fading relevancy ny7.gif' alt='ny6'>.

    Poor thing's mind can't even comprehend sequences yet.

  12. K, 1.8-2 Million US (with a re-release) was still enough to land her one of the highest selling albums of the year and still the highest for a debut artist. So your stance is still completely subjective as to what counts as a flop. The 15th highest selling in the album is far from a flop. Anywayssssssss...

    You Ke$ha stans are so hypocritical. Firstly, you say One Sweet Day doesn't have the alltime sale record, which neither does Ke$ha, (Elton John does) even though it was one of the years best sellers (split between two years.) But then you say Animal wasn't a flop because it was the years best debut and 15th highest selling album.

  13. That's all said and good. But 16 weeks at #1 should bring in more than what other artists can achieve, no matter what is considered high at the time. What I'm saying is that the 16 weeks at #1 bought nothing new to sales, nothing like "wow, she sold the most in a 16 week period then any other artist" like Ke$ha did.

    Actually 3.5 million in 2010 is considered high for a debut album. Most artists sell a few 100k first week and then drop instantly. Or sell a few 100k over the year and fall. Animal was also the higest selling Pop album according to iTunes. So yes, Ke$ha was successful. Not to mention the 500k+ US sales of Cannibal. I haven't even included the sales of Cannibal xD

    And no 1.5 million (including Cannbial) is nothing to brag about for an album with 6 Top 10 hits and a rerelease. That just reeks of flop and singles artist. And iTunes doesn't mean shit for album sales. iTunes just happens to be the taste of 12 year olds, which just happens to be Ke$ha's fanbase. This is reminding me of when Lil Kim was bragging about her PayPal album sales. Animal may have sold well on iTunes, but on the whole, given the single success, it flopped.

    The Hot 100 is a combination of airplay and sales which Mariah excelled at. It measured popularity which One Sweet Day had, which spurred people to buy the album, with over 760k buying Daydream the week of Christmas. It was the best single week frame for a female artist up to that point (except for The Bodyguard which is technically a soundtrack.) Yes singles sales are fine, but it's even better if people buy the whole album because they like one song.

  14. Your're not quite getting the picture. Alot of artists have #1 streaks due to the fact no other major artist releases a new song at the same time. Do you think Rihanna would have her 6 week #1 streak with We Found Love if Lady Gaga, Britney and Katy Perry for example releaased Brand New singles in November? Nope. That's what I mean. At the time, it may have been an easy time to get a #1 and her sales werent very high for a #1 single, if Shania at the same time could achieve the same with a #2 peaking single. Mariah should have the best selling single of all time record from a 16 week #1 streak (even for its time). The fact that she doesn't means sales wernt very high and the competition at the time must have been dull.

    Ke$ha's nine week #1 was more eventful, as it blocked new singles from Big Artists such as Lady Gaga, Britney Spears etc. It also has holds the highest one-week sales on record and it's the highest selling debut single of all time and second highest selling single besides I Gotta Feeling and the highest selling solo single with 13+ million copies, and one of the only tracks to achieve 6 million in the US.

    Now who's record sounds more eventful to you? That's why I said IMO that Mariah's record for that song was meh for me compared to how other artists rule the charts +shrug+

    But so does every other artist mentioned in this thread +shrug+

    One Sweet Day kept Exhale (Shoop Shoop) by Whitney Houston at #2 for 11 weeks. If Exhale wouldn't have debuted the week it did, then Mariah would have replaced herself (Fantasy) at #1. And I think Whitney Houston's first single following the Bodyguard era was a lot more competition than anything TiK ToK was up against. Not to mention Celine Dion's Because You Loved Me (her longest stay at number one) was released while One Sweet Day was still #1. Mariah's was the only one of the three that was certified 2x Platinum. Not to mention Mariah was the first female artist ever to have two 2x Platinum singles from the same record, so yes One Sweet Day was a huge success saleswise. Maybe it's because you stan for Ke$ha who has cheap disposable hits with zero album sales, but most people who really like a song by someone with talent, buy the album instead because they know it'll be good based on one song, or because maybe the song was really good. They don't need to hear the whole album on the radio before making up their mind for quality artists. I'd rather have Daydream selling 25 million copies worldwide, than One Sweet Day selling 13 million.

  15. Hi Lambs;)

    I joined here to talk with lambs since ukmix closed the mariah thread for no f#cking reason+rolleyes+

    I've been lurking here a while. Looks like a fun forum.

    Ukmix is run by a bunch uptight pricks who have nothing better to do than constantly moderate threads to make sure you're on topic, no matter how boring it is or how inconsequential a music forum really is. Though that's probably because that's all they've accomplished with life because the mods organize meetings in real life together. lol But don't worry they've hated Mariah Carey forever. When Memoirs leaked they banned all Mariah Carey threads for a week for no reason except that there were too many Mariah fans, which disrupted the balance of posters. Great forum discussion. Welcome.

    Anyways, back on topic, I'm glad Mariah is performing on the US X Factor, because I thought she was just going to be on the UK version.

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