Nick

Just now, Matthew said:

It worked though

 

True  because America is sorely uneducated these days

1 minute ago, Onika said:

Welcome to the last season of America, where the writers are going balls to the wall crazy and nothing makes sense anymore.

I am too, while it's seriously unlikely he'll get the nom, I think the support is immensely important because it demonstrates the shift I was talking about earlier.

I'm not disagreeing with your logic, it's just a sad state of affairs when that's what electing a president has come to  

Exactly  in NJ it's likely Clinton will win because she was Senator of NY, which is right next to us, but because we have a ton of delegates, every vote counts. It's true for every state.

Oh I know  I move to France a week from today and i'll probably be staying there for at least four years at this point.  

The desperation  

Just now, Onika said:

I meant voting for Hillary over Bernie in the primaries is leading toward a closer race in November, sorry, that was unclear. The fact that you have to vote out of fear is seriously...  

Oh ok, then that makes sense  i'm voting for Bernie in my primary, which doesn't happen for a bit now, but NJ has a LOT of delegates because we're so densely populated so hopefully he gets a decent amount.

I honestly am. A Trump Presidency scares me more than a Clinton one. Trust me, I agree with you 100% on her problems, but to me it just isn't as bad as what Trump has given us.

1 minute ago, 25 said:

probably because I don't believe climate change its real. my decision is based on my religious views.

So God controls the weather?  

9 minutes ago, Onika said:

If it's Trump vs. Hillary, I'll be voting for Jill Stein, personally. Bernie polls SO much better against Republicans than Hillary, so if anyone is to blame for a close race, it's the people supporting Hillary. Sorry you don't like it, but that's just a fact.

Jill Stein didn't even get half of 1% of the votes in the 2012 election, so how is my vote for Hillary (if she gets it) to blame? I'm sorry but it's a little ridiculous to say that Hillary supporters are the reason for a close race. You know as well as I do that it's a two party system through and through. I hate that, it needs to change, but that's the way it is. You can vote however you want, but you can't blame the people supporting the Democratic nominee as being the reason it's a close race. I'm doing it out of fear of an even worse Presidency, as are many others.

Also, I know Bernie polls better. That's why I want him to win. We can both agree he's the better candidate than anyone.  

We really do agree on like 99% of things. I think we just disagree on how to get there.  

1 minute ago, Matthew said:

I'm going to get dragged for this, I'm sure - or even looked down upon - but I can stomach Donald Trump being President. 

I couldn't stomach Ted Cruz being President - and the fact that he's taken himself out of the race makes me really happy. 

I mean trust me, I don't think anyone here could stomach Ted Cruz as our President.  

I really couldn't stomach Trump after all his nasty rhetoric and radical statements. I truly believe he would ruin our foreign relations and possibly start a war. He can't control his mouth. I'm also afraid if he's elected, his supporters will be given legitimacy, and a mini genocide will break out in America. It's already happening at his rallies.

Yas Bernie contest that convention  

Just now, 25 said:

no its not.

 

If you really deny climate change I can't even debate with you. That's just proven fact.

3 minutes ago, 25 said:

Here's to hoping that all parties don't support climate change now or in 2020!!!

 

But it's real and we need to prevent further damage due to climate change.

7 minutes ago, Matthew said:

I don't disagree - but I've always said this to Bernie supporters who think that he's unbeatable or he's the harbinger of some sort of revolution. 

The general american electorate is a lot redder than you guys think it is - that's not to say that Bernie's not changed things - but for this cycle, and at least the next one, candidates like him are not going to be able to win the election, they can't.

That'll change as our parent's generation goes into retirement and eventually starts to die off - but that's quite a long time from now. 

It's just a matter of surviving the next decade, regardless if it's Trump or Hillary. 

What scares me is the thought of Bernie supporters sitting out if he isn't the nominee, or worse, voting for Trump. Unfortunately, as much as I wish it was different, we are a two party system right now, and an Independent or Third Party candidate has no viable path to victory. 

Hillary is extremely problematic on many different levels, and she's far from my first choice (I want a real progressive like Elizabeth Warren), but on her worst day, she's better than Trump on his best day. If four years of moderate policies and a continuation of the Obama presidency is what it takes to keep a narcissistic maniac like Trump out of office, i'm willing to take it. We cannot risk him getting in. I don't trust that man with our military, or any part of our government. Money in politics will be the last thing on our minds with him destroying America.

2 minutes ago, 25 said:

 

You don't like Trump tho so it is doomed if he wins  

1 minute ago, Dr. Slay said:

Omg your set

12 minutes ago, 25 said:

@Nick Bernie what's good?  

Probably well since he's leading Indiana so far

3 minutes ago, Goldie said:

Basically this, ha husband cheating on ha (with ha best friend) really wrecked ha mentally I think. But then Shania married the husband of ha best friend (the one that cheated on her, Shania ha revenge  ) sadly the industry has moved on without Shania and she will probably flop if she releases anything. She tried it with a single a few years ago

She did marry ha best friend's husband. He's cute too.  

I think it'd do decently in the country community, but yeah it probably wouldn't do fantastic overall.  

48 minutes ago, P.O.P said:

Her condition is really,really interesting.I'd love to hear what made her to stop making music.Diane Sawyer,girl?

Her husband cheated on her with her best friend, and after that she was devastated for a while, as her husband is also her co-writer and producer. She also was having problems with her throat tightening due to stress and nerves. Recently she started getting over it, so she wrote her memoir, had an OWN mini-series based around her recording and writing a song on her own for the first time in more than a decade, and she opened her Vegas show.

18 hours ago, Tapestry said:

Now I remember why I don't like to admit Bernie Sanders is my fav.

Bernice slays tho  

19 minutes ago, HeatSeeker said:

^ Well Bernie polls better against Trump than Hillary...not to mention Hillary virtually ties with Cruz and loses to Kaisich (scary!) whereas BERNIE BEATS THEM ALL.

 

This is fact...look it up

You're preaching to the choir here. I'm voting for Bernie in my primary. I'm pro-Bernie up until the nomination is decided, and if he doesn't get it, i'm going with Hillary.

13 minutes ago, Onika said:

Bernie has been publicly in favor of gay rights for decades. He did not explicitly use the term "gay marriage" until the 2000's I believe, but at that point you're just arguing semantics. He voted in favor of pro-gay measures every single time. He voted against DOMA. He campaigned in favor of a motion that granted same sex couples the exact same rights as straight couples in the 90's. You cannot even remotely compare him and Clinton when it comes to gay rights, there's no contest at all, and trying to claim otherwise is disingenuous at best.

Trust me, I know Bernie's awesome pro-LGBT record. One of the reasons i'm voting for him. I'm just saying that he wasn't in favor of marriage, and he wanted it left up to the states. Hillary had the exact same position, full benefits and rights within civil unions, but leave marriage to the states, although she was touting the traditional marriage thing for a while. 

I really am no huge supporter of Hillary. While i'll gladly vote for her if she's the nominee, that's only because i'm deathly afraid of everything Trump will do. No matter Hillary's faults, they don't compare to his. Bernie cannot and will not win on a third party ticket. That's just the reality of our fucked up two party system. Honestly, more than anything I wish Elizabeth Warren had run this cycle.

OMG i'm done she stole her fucking title track

If Hillary doesn't get the minimum number of delegates needed to secure the nomination, we're going to be going to a contested convention, and Bernie could possibly take it there. It's not over yet. The media wants voters to think it's over so that Sanders voters don't go out, and Clinton can take more delegates. The fact is, even though Bernie only won one state last night, he still picked up a decent amount of delegates, and superdelegates are slowly saying they'll vote for him at the convention. Superdelegates ALWAYS go with the candidate who won in their district. It's never happened the opposite way. They wouldn't get re elected if they didn't go with their voters choice. They'd be kicked out during the next cycle.

However, with that all being said and done, I will be gladly voting for Hillary in November if she gets the nomination. Yes, I understand the hesitations and problems people have with her. I do not agree with many of the tactics she has employed this cycle, I do not agree with many of her past decisions, and she has lied multiple times. However, i'm not going to ignore the many good things she has done throughout her career. While she's clearly a moderate, I think calling her a Republican is unfair. She wants to expand Obamacare, raise the minimum wage, have guaranteed paid family leave, debt free college, among many other positions that the GOP simply doesn't hold. I also don't fault her for not coming on board for gay marriage until a few years ago. Bernie wasn't on board with it until a few years ago too. He only endorsed civil unions. No major politician was on board with it until recently. 

This election is too crucial for Trump to get it. I'm scared of anyone who says "Let's have Trump win it so he'll fuck things up and we'll get a progressive next time." Absolutely not. If Trump is in office, corrupt money in politics and economic reform are going to be the LAST things on our minds. We are going to have to worry about having seven different revolutions instead of just one. He will completely destroy our foreign relations, give huge tax breaks to the corporations and the wealthy, appoint a Supreme Court justice who will try and overturn gay marriage, etc. It's too much to risk. I'd rather have four years of a slightly more liberal Obama than have four years of a man who wants our soldiers to commit war crimes, ban Muslims from entering our country, build a wall, and completely destroy this country.

Not just that, but his supporters are dangerous. It's not only Trump's positions that are dangerous, it's the way he rallies his voters. There's violence at his rallies, people getting beat up, KKK members endorsing him. I'm more worried about his voters rising up and causing a modern day genocide in this country than anything else. A Trump presidency would validate them, and I don't think he'd do a damn thing to stop them.

Is Hillary the best choice? No. Is she better than Trump in every single way? Yes.

Omg the shade Nicki threw  

1 minute ago, Benji said:

his way of thinking is very much of a communist tho  capitalism is needed for a nation like america. sorry  tldr anyway, you can make pamphlets for this but that wont change the fact that more people are voting trump than there are voting bernie  so using your argument about the OP, your opinion is IRRELEVANT 

As you are someone who won't have a voice in our American politics this cycle, i'm certainly glad your opinion is truly irrelevant to American politics. Like a true Trump supporter, you have been given fact after fact and simply come back with scary words like communist. He's never said anything about taking away capitalism in this country.

I think you've embarrassed yourself pretty thoroughly, unless you want to say anything more about your "dark skinned people."  

Just now, Benji said:

its funny that you think bernie will make it to november tho  hilary will demolish him.

its cute that you probably support ilegal immigrants, but guess what? that doesnt make you a better person  supporting an old tired communist hag that is only popular on the internet either  americans should be americas priority, so yeah mexicans can get jobs in there country  

If he doesn't, i'll be voting Hillary. Trust me, she's not my favorite by any means, but i'd rather her than Trump.  

He isn't a communist, he's a democratic socialist. If you understood American politics, you'd know that we have many socialist programs in this country. Infrastructure like roads and highways, social security, 40 hour work weeks, the minimum wage, Medicare. He wants to keep control of the big corporations and banks that put us into the Great Recession of 2008. They pay way less in taxes than they should, and there are many jobs in this country where a secretary pays a higher tax rate than her executive boss. He wants to implement things that are working in many other countries, such as universal healthcare and free public university tuition for citizens.

Americans should be America's priority? Yes, agreed. Both Bernie and Hillary want to keep jobs in the USA, and both want to penalize corporations who want to outsource their companies to other countries by making them pay a hefty exit tax for leaving the USA and taking jobs away from America. Trump, however, in his many years of business, has consistently outsourced and made use of cheap immigrant labor, but suddenly seems to care about "American Jobs." Give me a break.

I support paths to legalization for immigrants who have already come into this country, are non violent, and pay taxes. I support securing our border to make sure we don't have an immigration problem anymore, but that people can still come in. I do not support the deportation of 11 million people, as Trump does.