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Posts posted by Alejandreaux

  1. 1 hour ago, Earth Ripper said:

    I don't remember that but if I said that, that's because she can't compete with her competition from her debut onwards on any level now gaga7 That's not a bad thing 'cause I don't give a fuck about charts and I've always wished she would actually do what she preached and go back to singing in irrelevant bars and leave the people who distort her vision behind once and for all, but that doesn't change the fact that simply observing her career right now, she's way behind the big league sass5 Like, yes ok she has the second biggest female debut of the year, but Beyoncé sold more than double the amount of albums she did eve1 iTunes is meaningless as we all know, especially when you can pair it with absolutely abysmal streaming (which in this climate is a lot more representative of your success and relevancy 'cause who the fuck still buys digital music as a casual fan) interesting1

    Anyway, my stance on Gaga practicing what she preaches leads me to the second point:

    I'm not sure if that's realistic at this point aretha1 She had so many chances to just focus on the music and leave the whole pop spectacle behind (a desire she's constantly using to feign superior authenticity), but she actually never does it and keeps running in the same corporate treadmill brit12 After her whole "Interscope is abusing my work but now I'm gonna do things my way!" breakdown she's still letting them choose her singles, still letting them alter her tracklist and album sound, still going on an extensive promo tour, and still cluddering her schedule with a bunch of side projects brit14 It's just like with C2C which supposedly was also all about the music, and then she hilariously claimed that because she loved the music so much, she felt a desire to promote the shit out of it anyway (I mean, is there a more obvious and transparent lie than that?) dead7

    Add to that her absolute betrayal when it comes to her early "I'm not the type of celebrity that spends their money on cars and mansions" philosophy, and I think we can safely say she is absolutely in it for the money to a remarkable degree, and if you add to thàt her "I always wanted to be an actress but nobody would hire me, so I made music instead" statement and I think it's obvious that she'll trade in whatever is not working for whatever is more lucrative gaga12 Why is it so realistic to assume that if she continues to do badly, she'll just say goodbye to music (probably wrapped up in some "I can't take the pressure of the industry, I want a more natural life and want to focus on being a mommy" bs) and make easy money in other ways? julia1

    you keep saying she's "way behind the big league"... but wouldn't you say Ariana is in the big leagues this year with her multiple top tens this era and being a HUGE streaming force? and same with Rihanna? and yet still Gaga moved more copies than them first week without having any major hits on her album shock1 im just trying to point out the obvious attempts to downplay the amount of success that Gaga DOES still manage to have in 2016. and yes streaming has taken over the industry for the majority, but digital sales are still a huge part of how people consume music too. like, how come now all of a sudden digital sales are completely irrelevant and they don't matter now just because Gaga doing well in that format? I can't dead2
    if she's completely over like you say then why is she doing well in ANY format, especially one where you have to pay to hear it dead2 MR is still selling as much right now as some of the biggest singles in America right now (its predicted to do 41k this week while " Closer" does 40k and "Dont Wanna Know" does 46k) so like I said, she's still doing well and she's still a force in music even if she isn't nearly as big as she was before lj1

    and I don't understand why you think just because she doesn't want people interfering with her music or creative process, that she's OBLIGATED now to just throw away the career she worked for her entire life and go live and perform on the streets as a hobo.... or else she's being a "fake artist" dead2

    why is it's so extreme for her to ask that as a woman in the music industry, she should be able to have the final say in what she puts into her own art AND be able to share it with the world and enjoy the success that may inevitably come along with it? dead2 what she constantly "preaches" is that she wants to have more creative control over the music she makes. that doesn't mean that music still isn't her main career at the end of the day. she is still a professional musician so I don't see why you're hell-bent on her total exit from the music industry (where she is bounded to contracts with interscope btw) and leaving her fans behind (or the chance for her music to reach more people in the world) just because she had creative disagreements with people oprah3

    also just because she has purchased nice things with the insane amount of money she made as an artist doesn't mean that she "only does everything for the money!!1!1!" now lmfao. she said those things in like early 2009 when she was just beginning as a professional solo artist. you think she's really not gonna touch any of the hundreds of millions of dollars she's made for herself over the years since then just to uphold some image of being "real" that people on pop forums have for her? as long as music is still her main focus in life (which it is) idon't see what buying a nice house or a nice car has to do with what anyone thinks of her in the long run  dead2 



  2. Just now, Earth Ripper said:

    Well, I don't know where that argument was tbh sass5 I just said that based on her career track now, it's unlikely that she will still be a competitive force in the next few decades gaga11 Remember the thread you're in, this is about Gaga claiming she'll still be making music 40 years from now.

    you said you wanted to see receipts of her competitive success in 2016, which is another way of saying she has none. I was just responding to that statement jj2 and I mean, theoretically speaking, even if she didn't sell one copy of any album ever again, she'll always love music and have talent as a musician, so there's nothing stopping her from still making albums and performing decades from now lj1



  3. On 12/8/2016 at 4:23 PM, Earth Ripper said:

    Whatever omg you always have to choose to zoom in on these dumb meaningless details 'cause you can't take the general point sass5 My point was that compared to her peers it is questionable to assume that Gaga will be around in even 10 years as a competitive force. I don't care about how well she did in 2009, I want to see proof of her competitive success now. Most of the people who were counted as her competition back in 2008 can all show very quick and easily convincing receipts of their relevancy, she's the only one besides Kesha who's has a dramatic decline story aretha1 How are you gonna fucking deny that.

    I know im 2 days late to the argument, but i just had to put my 2 cents into it jj2 

    like i get what you're saying, and i get that Gaga is not as relevant in music as she was in 2010, but im just not understanding the argument that she's not at least SOMEWHAT of a competitive force still.. like wtf


    if the competition is who managed to make it into the Super Bowl Halftime Show in 2017, who would you say was the winner? Only ONE artist made it to literally the most relevant and important stage in music (twice in a row btw), but y'all are tryna tell me she's "no longer competing"


    If the competition is who, out of every female artist who released in 2016, can sell the most copies with their album in the first week, who is slaying that competition? Beyoncé and then who? Rihanna? Sia? Ariana?..... But youre telling me she's not a force in music anymore, like even a little bit...


    not to mention everyone ignoring the fact that Million Reasons has been in the top 10 on iTunes consistently, and she's had one of the highest charting songs on iTunes by a female artist for about a week now (even with no video and no radio airplay), or that Joanne was the longest running #1 album on iTunes WORLDWIDE for a female artist this year (more days at #1 than Beyoncé, Rihanna, Britney, etc)... but then you say she has absolutely no competitive success


    clearly Gaga is nowhere near her peak of being everywhere at once and having consistent hit singles like she did 5 years ago, and I'd never try to argue that with anyone. but y'all are constantly trying to perpetuate this claim that she is 100000% over and not doing SHIT anymore in music, but the receipts will actually show you  that it's not the case. yes she's flopping in streaming and having a current smash on the charts (for now) but imo she's doing perfectly fine for an artist who doesn't seem to care about having cheap, easy, trendy singles in the charts 24/7. she's managed to maintain a balance of being a relavant and respected performer while still being in her own lane and doing whatever tf she wants to do in music whether it's "trendy" or not....



    we get that she's not on 2010 level but she clearly ain't over though 


  4. 23 minutes ago, John Wayne said:

    Katy was away for 2+ years as well....

    yes, after coming off of a successful era and having two #1 smash hit singles, one of them even going diamond. my point still stands, she is in a much easier place to smash than y'all are giving her credit for. moo1


  5. How would any of us have the slightest clue when we haven't heard any of her new music? dead2 she's in a VERY easy place to have another smash era since her last era was a global success worldwide and had two monster hit singles. whether you like her our not, she has been SLAYING the pop music world. Gaga was in a much harder place to have a successful album since she was away from the mainstream music world for 2+ years, and yet still she managed to have strong debut in 2016 and outsold current pop girls who have been in the mainstream this whole time. lj1

     As Gaga stans we should be happy with what we got this time around and not be instantly trying to pit her up against the other mainstream pop girls so soon tbh  lj1



  6. imo the two most obvious answers are the Beatles and Michael Jackson. the two most impactful and successful artists in history rip2 

    the top 5 most successful artists of all time in regards to record sales are:

    1. The Beatles

    2. Elvis Presley

    3. Michael Jackson

    4. Madonna

    5. Elton John

    so yeah those 5 artists pretty much have their names engraved in music history for the rest of mankind rip2


  7. Quote

    As "Joanne" bows atop the Billboard 200, Gaga is the top artist in the U.S.

    Lady Gaga is the top musical act in the U.S., vaulting from No. 51 to No. 1 on the Billboard Artist 100 chart (dated Nov. 12), as she leads the list for the first time.

    The Artist 100 measures artist activity across Billboard's most influential charts, including the Billboard Hot 100Top Album Sales and the Social 50. The Artist 100 (which launched in July 2014) blends data measuring album and track sales, radio airplay, streaming and social media fan interaction to provide a weekly multi-dimensional ranking of artist popularity.

    Lady Gaga soars to the Artist 100 summit, up by 937 percent in overall activity, as her new album Joanne, debuts at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 with 201,000 equivalent album units in the week ending Oct. 27, according to Nielsen Music, and Top Album Sales with 170,000 copies sold. Album sales account for 77 percent of her Artist 100 standing.

    Gaga had previously peaked at No. 13 on the Artist 100 dated Oct. 1, when lead Joanne single "Perfect Illusion" debuted at its No. 15 Hot 100 highpoint. Before that, she'd reached No. 15 on the Artist 100 on Oct. 11, 2014, when her last album before JoanneTony Bennett collaborative album Cheek to Cheek, debuted atop the Billboard 200.


    Notably, Gaga is the first woman to top the Artist 100 in eight months, since Adele topped the March 12 tally. Only five women have led the list since its inception: Taylor Swift, for a record 31 weeks, Adele (10), Ariana GrandeMeghan Trainor (two each) and now Gaga. (Eighteen males and eight duos or groups, all fronted by male vocalists, have topped the chart.)

    Rounding out the Artist 100's top five, Drakerebounds 4-2, Twenty One Pilots fall to No. 3 after four (nonconsecutive) weeks at No. 1 and two acts re-enter: Michael Buble at No. 4 and Pentatonix at No. 5, both on the strength of new albums. Buble (who bests his prior No. 17 peak) returns as his new LP, Nobody But Me, enters both the Billboard 200 (91,000) and Top Album Sales (85,000) at No. 2, while Pentatonix (which previously hit a No. 2 Artist 100 high) enters the album lists at Nos. 3 and 4, respectively, with A Pentatonix Christmas (60,000; 52,000). The latter set also dashes onto the Holiday Albums chart at No. 1.

    Check out this week's entire Artist 100 here.


  8. 10 minutes ago, John Wayne said:

    nice... but, yeah, still low dead4

    like, MR was slaying kworb for several days... and.... 57 dead4

    MR has really good digital sales right now, but it still has 0 radio support and it's still getting minimal streams across all platforms. As opposed to "Closer" and "Starboy" which are currently MASSIVE with digital sales, radio airplay, and streaming combined. It's really no shock that MR isn't top 40 yet lol. dead4


  9. 5 hours ago, Hysteria said:

    Thought this was all tea until I got to the last part eve1

    She does though lol. Madonna makes great music but being a talented vocalist is like the easiest way to get respect and acclaim from the GP. when people think of Madonna they think about the boundaries she pushed and her creativity, but when they think of Mariah they think about her musical talent and her voice. Both of them are two of the most highly respected female pop musicians of all time so it's not like it's a competition or anything xtina11