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Earth Ripper

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  1. Don't tell me what's a desperate move when you can't even answer a fucking direct question.
  2. It has nothing to do with him as a person, I just see you laughing at Madonna with him on the first page and then you're suddenly criticizing me for everything he did 10x worse without being able to explain why one deserved support and the other a lecture That's what his posts have to do with mine. They show your hypocrisy and your bias towards me. It's ridiculous you're sitting here pretending "everything was already addressed", show me where you addressed everything I posted above then lmao it's nowhere Crazy.
  3. R. Kelly drugged her after touching her seductively What's to be confused about? Gaga clearly reacts in a sexualized manner when he does touch her, and the dialogue points to that direction as well. The lyrics in the song reinforce the theme, where R. Kelly is also mentioning using drugs with her, after which he will do whatever he wants with her body, which Gaga seemingly allows I still don't know what the hell she was trying to say with that song/video/era (definitely not what she pretended it was about in interviews), but it's pretty undeniable she was making references to sexual assa
  4. No you haven't, that's why I have to ask you directly.. you haven't once mentioned @Jjang despite me bringing him up constantly in my defense (#1), you've ignored me bringing up my positive opinions about current Madonna, pretending I'm always negative (#2), you have not addressed the ignore option I brought up (#3), you haven't explained how my post was off-topic to begin with, esp. when you and @Jjang had been bringing up "current trash Madonna" unrelated to this particular movie incident yourselves (and no I don't care about your social media excuses, that does not count, because @Jjang als
  5. The only thing that's messy about this era is how people think it's been messy so far Like, omg. Some people are so hilariously desperate to make this era out to be something it simply hasn't been. Now ARTPOP was an undeniable mess of huge proportions specifically because her fans had been preparing for a huge comeback and they got an amazing commercial underperformance (to the point of 80%+ loss of album sales in her home country, and being the least commercially successful of her peers overall) and a public disinterest in return That can't possibly compare to Katy, who just experienced a c
  6. It was a trigger for reasons I've specified many times now, and you've consistently ignored them (irony once again) Let me directly put them in specific questions (in order of importance) so you can't reply again without addressing them finally: - 1. Why could @Jjang, notorious among the Madonna fanbase on FOTP for criticizing "current trash Madonna" (as he did in this very thread), make immediately hateful comments in here and get support from you while I'm getting criticized and lectured for doing the same? (and actually, my posts were quite civil and tame compared to his, so not
  7. I brought up good counterarguments though Maybe you can reply to them, then, since my conversation partner seems to have neglected to do so. How is it ok for Madonna to make W.E. but not ok for someone to make a film about Madonna's early days? I'm still waiting. Also, that script does not drag her friends and colleagues through the mud, so ending this thread on a lie doesn't seem smart either I really feel like none of y'all have even read it.
  8. @Yzma Downvoting but not replying, seriously? That is lame behavior, dear.
  9. So I wasn't ignoring it, then? How very "stop putting words in my mouth" on the previous page of you. Do yourself a favor and just skip these blatantly wrong accusations, they're too easy to throw back in your face. Maybe I just don't like current Madonna.. And if I judge your "I wish she would just disappear for five years" comment correctly, you don't like her either, so I'm still puzzled by you taking such offense. Is this all because I don't like RH or something? I have praised several songs on that album though, so even if that was the reason, you'd still be wrong. Then
  10. I'm not though. Your point is that I'm always negative about Madonna. To me that is obviously untrue (and I gave two specific examples of that not being true), the end. What more can I say? I'm not gonna suddenly fall on my knees and acknowledge your take on my behavior as the only one It's not. And the fact that you happily joined @Jjang in an immediate bashing of Madonna right below the OP for everyone, fan and non-fan to see tells me that you're just bitter and you wanna pick a fight with me instead of making some sense, trying to attack me for being hateful towards Madonna. Like I said: I
  11. By that logic Blonde Ambition is not a biopic either lol. It's a Hollywood fiction film based on true events, using Madonna's life story (only a bit of it, actually) as a mere skeleton Madonna's portrayal of Eva is completely irrelevant here, since it's the writing we're talking about. Obviously the actress playing Madonna in BA will know everything about her too, so if that makes Evita ok, then does that make BA ok too then? You don't have to know anything about that, other than that Madonna chose to make a movie about historical figures and their relationship simply because of a per
  12. You sound like a LM talking to me about my Gaga comments omg The LMs who think of me as the deluded Madonna stan, that's ironic The "above us all" thing is weird, I definitely never inserted that sentiment into my recent posts. I don't think she's trash across the board currently, I praised Tears of a Clown to the stars for instance, as well as her universally bashed Met Gala look, so how are you gonna talk your way out of that one? I think she's throwing away potential, hence my disappointments and criticisms. That obviously doesn't come from a place of hatred, but of love. You just h
  13. But why would she be the best person to tell the story of her rise to fame though? It makes no sense. She'd obviously, due to how human memory works, present a completely flawed picture in her own self interest.. the only way to get an accurate version is to compare all memory of all the people she met/worked with back then and pick out the commonalities, but who's gonna do that and for what So yeah, this "Madonna should tell her story" crap is self-destructive crap, and you still haven't responded to the justified criticism that Madonna has decided to claim two historical figures for he
  14. It was literally the same argument + a nicer echo of your "omg what an embarrassing bitch for posting this on IG!!" remarks though So good for you, but that doesn't change your ridiculous decision to quote me like that in the first place.
  15. Well, ok, then how is anything I said hateful? What's this supposed to say? Of course it's about that, that's the topic of this thread, isn't it? Just like you, I didn't support her reaction on this movie, but somehow you can voice that with a bunch of hateful, non-serious remarks and I can't, even though I provided more argumentation? Just weird, man.
  16. And I just genuinely thought the script was great, who cares if it's 100% accurate, you need a good movie that inspires and communicates themes clearly and without tiring bs in the end She should know, having made Evita I thought it was a really touching portrait of Madonna that was neutral — there were both scenes that romanticized her rebellion, heart, and power, and there were also scenes that showed how a character like that (esp. for a woman) affected other people's lives, from heartbreak to betrayal for opportunism (and let's be real, there are many examples for the latter in Madonna's
  17. "This bitter bitch" -> slur/being hateful instead of critical "can someone delete her social media please?" -> wishing her social media was taken away/being hateful instead of critical "Hackers please?" -> making fun of people hacking her/being hateful instead of critical "I'm so sick of her lately" -> being hateful instead of critical "I wish she would pull Janet and disappears for half a decade." -> wishing she disappeared for half a decade/being hateful instead of critical "there was no IG for her to be this active and annoying" -> being hateful in
  18. You wished her social media was taken away from her, made fun of people hacking her, wished her gone for half a decade, called her slurs,... meanwhile, I did neither of those things and just used actual arguments that backed up my opinion, and somehow I'm the one who crossed the line from criticizing to being hateful? Your bias towards me is clearly impacting the way you read, holy shit.
  19. @Angelus Oh you actually called her a "bitter bitch" yourself My post truly pales in comparison to what you said about her, holy shit, my memory softened what you were writing on page 1 too much it seems What a hypocrite. You learn from your fav I guess.
  20. lol 100% wrong. All of it is about the topic. The only thing off-topic here is what you just wrote to me. But then you had no problem with @Jjang calling her a bitch etc. and you yourself with him agreed that she should've just disappeared because she's so embarrassing now, like what the fuck are you on? If anything, you should be writing this to yourself wtf.
  21. Where were you defending Evita, Wallis and Edward? And if you're gonna use the "well, they're dead!" argument then shame on you for being so lame. If anything, it's better to make these movies while the characters are still alive, so they can clarify the border (that will always be there, even in documentaries, ask any capable filmmaker, no not Madge) between a movie and the reality it's about The movie isn't even about her, really. It's about the image of Madonna we all have come to know. The script clearly tries to analyze what we love and hate so much about Madonna as a public persona and
  22. Ridiculous response. She herself claimed the stories of historical figures to turn them into (critically panned) movies, so for her to play it this way is downright embarrassing I get that she's pissed because apparently she wasn't contacted at all, but then I didn't see her make a fuss about all those unofficial biographies and documentaries etc. like, I get the emotion, but she really has a gift for transforming her emotion into absolutely hysterically hypocritical and deluded statements these days She's so obsessed with her "I'm a victim facing ageism and misogyny!" parade that she's
  23. Basically, the whole thing can be summed up as: people who don't like what you're saying will, instead of meeting you on the same playing field (i.e. with well-structured argumentation about the actual topic), criticize how you're saying it (in this case "essays!") just so they can have an easy victory in a situation where they're clearly doomed to embarrass themselves The prime example is the sudden "omg how can you be so obsessed about hating someone!!" after pages of argumented discussion It's such a bs easy way out, especially on a discussion forum. Just make a Tumblr about why your
  24. I don't think you can back that up with actual facts. In my experience it's the other way around, I'll just post my opinion about something in any format I desire, and then I'm forced to defend it for pages because people take issue with it and claim I'm fundamentally wrong I think I've shown plenty of times that I know my opinion is worthless shit in the end and we don't all have to agree on everything. But when you make a statement that can be proven to be objectively false, then I will try to prove that. But in any case, that's fucking irrelevant though. Your argument was about having
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