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Which are Bey's most emotional performances for you guys?
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On 11/10/2017 at 10:23 AM, Kenny Mccormick said:
give glory the time floponic had & as I said it would sell the same amount or more
Imagine being dumb enough to think that an album that barely moved 370K in its first year will suddenly sell 2x that in the next years.
On 11/10/2017 at 10:34 PM, Kenny Mccormick said:Sweetie you did the same thing before
and I saw this thread pop up so I clicked on it because it’s britney related
i saw your cringeworthy “ drags “ and I laughed my ass off so I downvoted them
Now go back to spam reporting me
xoxo
When have I ever bumped a 1 year old thread? I have barely been here for a year myself. Your lies are cute attempts, but that won't make you any less pathetic.
Report you? I don't even know who the hell you are. Why are newbies always so ridiculous and cringeworthy?
On 11/10/2017 at 10:37 PM, Kenny Mccormick said:her Asia tour had many sold out dates which shows she can still sell out something xtinct could never
Is that why she sold out a 10K arena last year in a small European country?
13 hours ago, Kenny Mccormick said:sweetie, please stop embarrassing yourself" she never flopped " you're very deluded
Someone needs to order an English 101 online course and stop embarrassing itself.
On 11/10/2017 at 6:11 AM, Urbi said:Plenty now equals three?
Well... considering that she only has 5 in total, I would say that 3 is plenty.
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How pressed, sad and pathetic do you need to be to dig up and bump a thread from one year ago and go on a down-voting spree? What a sad lame life, poor thing.
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29 minutes ago, HninSi said:
Thank u for proving my point with receipts that mandonna failed to crack the hot 100 even after shameless heavy promotion.kii.
Who needs the US when you're global? Too bad your local fave can't relate, but wait, she doesn't even have US' support anymore so we can't even call her local now, she's just utterly and completely DONE. Poor thing.
Rebel Heart 1 million // Rebel Heart Tour $169.8 million
The Elusive Cunt 300K // TSSFT $29 million
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48 minutes ago, light741 said:
Mariah has countless great live vocals behind her back troll. A madonna fan can't call Mariah a fraud. When madonna has been doing her good amount of lipsync since 1982. Wanna talk about that?. Wanna compare both of their raw live vocals throughout their careers and see who the real singer is?. Have a seat.
You wanna live wisthles from 2006 troll?. Here.
Wanna a whistle from this decade?. Here.
Owned again.
So? that won't erase the fact that she has countless lip-synched and pre-recorded vocals throughout her whole career too. She is a FRAUD for trying to fool the public while claiming to be a vocalist singing live. Nothing you say about Madonna will change the fact that Mariah lip-synched the hardest parts during this horrid performance, PERIOD.
Kii at you celebrating your own weak and terrible comebacks. Cringeeeee. Also kii at goats pretending that Mariah is an angel.
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Mariah's latest SOLO effort was "infinity" and it charted. Well, every Mariah solo lead single charted. Mandonna on the other hand, heavily promoted "living for love" yet embarrassingly flopped. I wonder when was the last time she charted solo on hot 100.
LIVING FOR LOVE
Chart (2015)
Peak Belgium (Ultratip Flanders) 4 Belgium Dance (Ultratop Flanders) 21 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Wallonia) 43 Belgium Dance (Ultratop Wallonia) 18 Canada (Canadian Hot 100) 92 Czech Republic (Rádio Top 100) 46 Finland Download (Latauslista) 7 France (SNEP) 50 Germany (Official German Charts) 40 Hungary (Single Top 40) 12 Ireland (IRMA) 79 Israel (Media Forest) 4 Italy (FIMI) 30 Japan (Japan Hot 100) 11 Lebanon (The Official Lebanese Top 20) 20 Scotland (Official Charts Company) 15 Spain (PROMUSICAE) 21 Sweden (DigiListan) 8 Switzerland (Schweizer Hitparade) 49 UK Singles (Official Charts Company) 26 US Dance Club Songs (Billboard) 1 US Hot Dance/Electronic Songs (Billboard) 9 US Hot Singles Sales (Billboard) 3 US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard) 36 INFINITY
Chart (2015)
Peak France (SNEP) 85 Hungary (Single Top 40) 25 Japan (Japan Hot 100) 43 Spain (PROMUSICAE) 18 Sweden (DigiListan) 52 UK Singles (OCC) 154 UK R&B (Official Charts Company) 27 US Billboard Hot 100 82 US Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs (Billboard) 28 -1 -
6 minutes ago, light741 said:
True. She went for the WBT climax live. She should have done the rest. But doesn't mean she gave a bad performance. 2006 was the comeback of Madonna and Mariah. They deserve an standing ovation just for surviving all the shit they went through in previous years, and coming back with hit records.
Stop lying. She lipped the entire climax, except for the last line. The climax starts at 1:14 with all those phrased E5s, which are the ones the bitch avoided. And she lipped pretty much all of the FLAB performance, avoiding all the D5s, F5s, A5s, and whistles like the FRAUD she is. Who are you trying to fool?
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4 minutes ago, Jjang said:
She lipped nearly 2 minutes long of vocals in hopes to fool people into thinking she's singing live, that's not cool when you're Mariah Carey. Why can't you acknowledge that?
Because his delusion knows no limits. In his eyes, Mariah is perfect and can do no wrong. He has a excuse for everything the bitch does wrong.
@light741 Btw, WTB's climax starts at the bridge and the bitch lipped all that part. That strained C5 won't change that fact. She also lipped FLAB's vocal climaxes. Like, the proof is hitting you in the damn face and you're still excusing the bitch. Lord...
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You mean for the gays, right? Otherwise Pink is nowhere near irrelevant. GP adores her.
6 hours ago, Urbanov said:Kelly Clarkson
I don't see her as successful though, she was only a thing during the Breakaway era. She's the epitome of a local act and even now, the US stopped caring about her basic ass.
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There's nothing iconic about Gwen, she's an overrated has-been. A one-era-wonder as a solo act and also with ND. Kylie is an icon, and CGYOOMH alone is bigger than Gwen's entire existence. Not to mention Kylie can actually sing and pretty well, also her music is better. Stop disrespecting Kyliesus by comparing her to that inferior woman.
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And yet that horrid song failed to enter the BH100. Madonna sold more albums, more singles, charted way better, had one of the all-time highest grossing tours back then. I guess Mariah can have this meaningless s.o. as a consolation prize for being in Madonna's shadow for the entirety of her "big comeback", that was a local event, let me add. You tried, you failed.
3 hours ago, Unapologetic Bitch said:people were happy that squeaking was finally over
This flawless clapback tho.
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Britney is the epitome of mediocrity. She was an ok entertainer back then when she could execute her cheerleading tired moves. But she's a total disaster ever since her meltdown. There's absolutely nothing impressive about what she does; any stripper could do even better. The fact that she refuses to sing live even though she basically only parades on stage is beyond ridiculous, specially with her music that is not vocally demanding at all.
On 18/7/2017 at 11:15 AM, Kyoteki said:One thing I'll give her is that it's so damn rare to see performances where they're dancing. None of the new pop girls can sing AND dance at the same time Granted Brinty ain't singing but STILL.
This would make sense if she hadn't been lip-synching since the beginning of her career. Beyoncé dances and sings her ass off while performing, what Britney does deserve no respect or recognition. Parading across the stage, bending the knees here and there and some dumb arm movements, are NOTHING to be impressed by.
On 18/7/2017 at 11:47 AM, /\quarius said:Also Britney makes music to perform, not to sing. I wonder what excuses some stans are gonna pull out for their fave now
The fact that you're not embarrassed of saying this out loud. Britney stans excusing mediocrity since 1998.
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7 hours ago, Goldie said:
Why Xtina has 5 major albums (yes I excluded Mi Reflejo and the christmas one) 2 of which flopped hard and the other 3 are 15-20 years old and only one really iconic video (Fighter, Beautiful and NMT would be pushing it). Bleach and Rihanna have a far more extended discography with much more iconic videos, I'd even give that award to Flopga before Xtina
Of course you would. You're always trying hard to discredit her. Her debut is not 20 y/o and BTB happened 10 years ago, not 15.
Lady Marmalade, Beautiful and Dirrty are all iconic. And the VA is clearly not about iconic videos. JT has no iconic videos yet he got the award, Bey and Rihanna have only 2 each. Christina's videography is diverse and well-executed. Videos like CHUD, Fighter, ANOM, Hurt, Candyman and YB are great. Not to mention that she was the queen of TRL along with Britney. They both dominated TRL back then. So sit your ass down, just because you're ignorant about Christina's career doesn't mean she has no achievements.
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Thanks for pointing out the obvious. No Madonna fan has ever claimed otherwise but k.
6 minutes ago, Coca-Cola said:i thought Come on Over was the best selling female album?
Some people argue about this because The Bodyguard is only 46% Whitney. So technically, it is not a Whitney album per se but rather a various artists type of album. But, let's be real, no one cared for the rest of the songs. It was Whitlegend carrying the entire project. As projects, TB was much bigger than COO.
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1 hour ago, Melt Away said:
Sure honey. A while ago you said you had little background on her. But sure! I bet you've really listened to her work real hard and thought about what it meant and how it stands considering her background. I also love how this just now comes up conveniently when you have nothing else to say, despite me calling you out for not knowing anything about her (because you said so) for PAGES.
I have also refuted what you have bolded but sure, I "ignore" it. Your reasoning was "her work is not thought-provoking" and I gave a bunch of songs with lyrical themes of depth. Do you want me to give you the list again? I even asked you what the parameters were and why Madonna's is and Mariah's isn't, why feminism is and racism wasn't. But YOU conveniently ignored that. Ridiculous.
I can easily turn around what you're saying about Mariah to Madonna but I'm not going to because I actually know a lot about her, and an average joe from the GP can easily dismiss her work as not art. It's as easy to call something art and not. However, I've been basing everything from YOUR definition of art. "Provoking thought" and "with intention". I've given my two cents with multiple examples and analyses. But you can't read!
Ask your Madonna stan circle-jerk to back you up in case you're having some troubles making up coherent arguments. You don't need to put yourself through such misery
Projecting isn't gonna make you less of an idiot, boo boo. (inb4 the stale self-aware "drag", stale like your arguments)
Why am I even writing this, it's not like you're gonna read it! You're gonna pick which parts appeal to you that don't destroy your argument and then take shit out of your ass to type on your keyboard with. But whatevs!
Just now coming up? Is the dementia hitting your door? I have corrected you every single time you've tried it with that self-made fallacy about me not knowing shit about Mariah. In fact, I did it since the very first time you misunderstood yet you've been riding that for 11 pages now.
On 10/7/2017 at 6:16 PM, havok said:I am not familiar enough with Mariah's career to know that. What I know is that she has shaded many artists and her fans celebrate her for it, every time.
On 10/7/2017 at 8:59 PM, havok said:Learn how to read, I said that I don't know enough about her career to the point of knowing every single detail about every single feud the bitch has had. Do you understand that?
"that" is a direct nod to Mariah shading other acts unprovoked. These happened since page 5 but I'm just addressing it now, right?
I just wanted to clear that out. I don't feel like repeating myself. I've been doing it for 11 pages and you still do not get it. It's obvious that I hit all your nerves since you cannot cease the ranting, personal attacks and deflection with the damn essays even after 11 fucking pages.
Premise: If Mariah's music is art then so is Pitbull's music and his music is just as valuable as hers. You either agree with this statement or you prove me right about her music not being art. Your choice. I have presented this to you multiple times before only to get it ignored. I bet you'll ignore it again and rant about whatever delusions you have in store. For our own sake, and everyone else's let's be done with this, okay?
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6 minutes ago, RebelHeart15 said:
I said she didn't do things she knew she couldn't do
What are those things? That's what I'm asking. I'm not seeking a fight, I'm just curious.
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4 minutes ago, light741 said:
Knowing your hatred towards Mimi. Tha relationship must have lasted 2 days. Like. And then.
You didn't down-vote my posts for once. The end must be near. We lasted more than 2.5 years actually and I disliked Mariah before he came into my life.
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18 minutes ago, Melt Away said:
oop, she broke!
You have NOT listened to a Mariah Carey album therefore your input is AUTOMATICALLY IRRELEVANT. You know NOTHING, sis, thank god you've finally accepted it! I guess since I've only listened to three Bjork songs my opinions of her are automatically solidified and valid! Bitch even your reasoning is off
I've given various arguments (none of which you've attempted to debunk) and now you're just calling it deflecting. Truly sad
You can't argue for shit, you don't know shit, you can't even bullshit your way through. A mess! Bye bye boo boo!
My ex was a Mariah stan, I know a lot thanks to him. I have listened to all of them except for Glitter and TEC, but whatever helps you sleep at night. The fact that you think you know anything about me or what I've done tho. How naive and entitled.
And just like I predicted, you deflected that simple fact, AGAIN. Oh, but I have, I even bolded and colored it for you but each and every single time you have deflected because it doesn't favor the cunt. I've literally posted it multiple times only for you to conveniently ignore it time after time.
18 minutes ago, Melt Away said:Truly sad
You can't argue for shit, you don't know shit, you can't even bullshit your way through. A mess! Bye bye boo boo!
Let me add, once again, that your self-awareness is delightful. Adiós.
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5 minutes ago, Melt Away said:
any of your input is irrelevant until you buy all of her music on itunes!
Blah, blah, blah. Let's be honest here. This all reduces to: I don't think Mariah's music is art, you disagree. The was no need for this long-ass pointless discussion when none will change their opinion.
The reasons you gave can be applied to any artist. Therefore, any song by any singer would be just as valuable but you have yet to address this simple fact. And I'm sure you're gonna deflect again. Anyway, you're free to think you "achieved" something here, when all you did was deflect.
1 minute ago, Melt Away said:How utterly pathetic
The self-awareness.
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44 minutes ago, Melt Away said:
Okay, see, the problem here is you're kind of delusional and set on trashing everything about Mariah because you hate her despite knowing nothing about her. Now that we got that out of the way.
Then what makes art, art? What makes Madonna's music, art? How come a song about experiencing childhood racism isn't art? I guess racism isn't an important "th0UgHt-PrOvOK1ng!!!!!!!1!!!" subject for you. I'm guessing that's white privilege but that's another discussion for another day!
Besides that, art CAN be just pretty, even though that's not the case with Mariah's music since she talks about a vast diversity of subjects which you chose to ignore because you're a blind ass hoe. I've literally posted dozens of examples featuring dozens of actual artists yet you sit here saying "well, you know nothing, and I know something and you can read about it through papers. I'm not gonna mention what papers though nor am I gonna give any credible examples." Transparent.
We've got the artists =/= art fiasco settled LONG AGO but you love to cling to it so you can seem somewhat right. Too bad I already tackled that subject pages ago. Move on sis.
And Mariah composes ALL of her original music wtf are you on? You know NOTHING. Absolutely NOTHING about what you're arguing and it's actually embarassing that you keep on going.
You're repeating yourself because you have NO arguments to give. Be gone then, bitch!
Child, I'm literally over this. You're literally a wall, and your deflection got tired 10 posts ago.
If Mariah's music is art then any song by any artist also is.
I am trying to end this discussion, not make it any longer so why would I derail and start educating you about the history of art, and particularly music, which is the one I have been educated on for 5 long years. I'm not going to lose more of my time to search for papers that you won't even be able to read, because you won't have access to them. You should know just by common sense that claiming all those artists (which are some of the greatest of all time) had NO intention other than entertainment, is one of the most idiotic things you could claim, also one of the biggest insults to their talent and legacy. But I guess asking you for common sense is too much. Right?
Mariah herself said on record that she relies on actual musicians to compose the music of her songs because she cannot play any instruments and doesn't know how to write music herself. You're her stan and you didn't know this? The irony of you telling me I know nothing about the cunt!!1!!11!!
Haven't you been repeating yourself since the very begging? Kii, the damn nerve. I'm done, think whatever the hell you want. I should know better than to engage with stupid and delusional Cuntriah stans. Have a nice day, xoxo.
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6 hours ago, ♚Missy♚ said:
Xtina wasn't a force as much as Britney. She had 1 cute era with impact and that was probably Dirrty
Overall, Britney was the more popular and successful of the two. But Stripped was bigger than Britney and ITZ, and BTB was bigger than Circus and Blackout. Anyhow, Christina is one of the most influential female pop star from her generation. She's been cited as a huge influence by a lot of acts that were successful from the next generation: Gaga, Leona, Kelly, Sam, Miley, Ariana, Selena, Demi, Meghan, 5H, Hayley, Jessie J, etc. Stripped is arguably more influential than any Britney era, but her impact does not stop there. Many of the acts that have cited her as an influence have talked about the impact her debut and BTB eras had on them as well. Anyway, you're a troll and a hater so why am I wasting my time?
15 hours ago, Gabe. said:well to keep it 100% real her videography has fallen down quite a bit ever since 2007...
She's only released 5 official videos since then. YB is one of her best and NMT has a great concept, it was just poorly executed and the editing is terrible. Anyhow, her videography from 1999 to 2007 is immaculate and impactful and warrants a Vanguard Award.
5 hours ago, RebelHeart15 said:trying to do things she knows she can't
What do you mean exactly?
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Not really. None of the newbies have reached Britney's and Christina's level of stardom and success. The most successful female of this new generation is Ariana, and she's also the most talented one. So for once, talent won. I would like to point out the fact that all these ladies have cited Xtina as a huge influence for them (Miley too) so even though she was never as commercially successful as Britney, her impact is kind of bigger because of her talent so it's all good.
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7 minutes ago, light741 said:
Daydream is acclaimed. Her collab with Dirty Bastard is also acclaimed. AIWFCIU is also acclaimed. And your elitist ass can't prove shit. Just with a list like if that is supposed to mean that anybody that doesn't rank here or there isn't making real music. Reaching to the heavens i see. So try again.
Oh, so a chart that compiles multiple lists by critics around the world and over the years doesn't prove anything but the mere opinion of a delusional Mariah stan does? K, sounds about right. You seriously need help, your delusion is just out of this world. I already gave you too much attention, bye.
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16 minutes ago, light741 said:
Bitch, when it was mentioned that Britney's discography was more acclaimed than xtina you tried to make it seem that critics don't matter. Art is subjective anyway. Nobody holds the ultimate truth about what is or isn't art. So you can seat your elitist ass somewhere. You ain't proving shit.
Your lack of common sense is hilarious. Whatever I think of critics won't change the fact that Madonna's music is critically acclaimed, and your fave's isn't. Period. In fact, as you can see, Madonna is the 27th most critically acclaimed musician ever, meanwhile your shitty fave is not even #1000.
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@Monster You should take out Stripped's intros and interludes, there's absolutely no point in having them.
You all chose the wrong albums for most of them. It should've been: