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All of the major news articles were behind Nicki. You have people outside of the Taylor fanbase and outside of white media divided on if Nicki had been subtweeting her or not which would give merit to Taylor defending herself. These are the opinions I value over Pierce Morgan and that horrible woman Katie Hopkins and pressed stans. Was she right in defending herself? Even if that were the case Taylor's response was ignorant and she was right to apologize because the implications of her tweets are beyond Nicki Minaj as a vma contender and instead go on to delegitimize the very valid and very real struggles of poc, women in particular, not getting the recognition they deserve. It was not an a issue of sexism as Taylor had implied but an issue of structural racism. Taylor may work hard and deserve all of the nominations she gets but to not acknowledge the very real white privilege she benefits from is as wrong as it is ignorant.

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sis how can you talk about white privilege when Beyonce was the most nominated woman and Kendrick Lamar tied Gaga's record rip3 this is very different to #BlackLivesMatter for example and I find it insulting that Nicki is inferring her not getting nominated for a soft porn video is a serious issue compared to that poor woman dying in police custody and having it covered up rip3 the only thing taylor did wrong was believe she could beat the race card

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Nicki is TRASH. SCUM. nothing more. She made a porn video of her fake hideous ass and prostituted herself out in a disgusting way and people hated it. It's not like she is Janet. She is a no talent whore who simply didnt deserve nominations.

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Thats why I said it was beyond Nicki Minaj not getting a VMA nomination. But when you have a woman of colour voicing her concerns over these issues of race and privilege and Taylor comes out and says "its the mens fault its this way" thats not the case and is a problem. I dont blame Taylor for getting defensive and sticking up for herself, she just did it in a way that invalidates the reality of many woc and thats what I took issue with. And absolutely pop culture has always overshadowed the real issues of the world and thats a shame.

I don't think any serious "woman of color" would voice her concern over Anaconda not being not nominated for a VMA rav1

I don't want to be harsh but African Americans aren't the only race that are victims to racism or discrimination . So join the club "woc" rav2

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What Nicki said in her tweet was right - but it wasn't the point. She tried to spin her unnominated album as a result of racism and body shaming but it was baseless.

Yes white women and thin bodies are more loved in the mainstream, and yes Nicki has a point. But anaconda wasn't nominated not because of racism or body shaming, it wasn't nominated because it simply wasn't that great and instead of being graceful about it Nicki used the race card and whatnot as an excuse for her shitty anaconda music video and song. eve1

As popular and impactful as anaconda was, it wasn't a good video by any means.

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Because Nicki acted like an ungrateful petulant child throwing her toys out of the pram just because she didn't get a nomination for Video of the Year at the fucking VMAs. She had 2 other nominations. She should have just been happy with what she had and not pushed her luck. The VMAs give no fucks about your skin color; they care about success; something that Anaconda lacked. They want to nominate artists who are going to pull in the ratings; not artists who can't scrape two million.

And no. Taylor was absolutely right. Who else did "OTHER" (meaning White) girls mean? Ed Sheeran? Even while being attacked, Taylor handled herself as a true lady (albeit slightly hypocritical).

It's all good though. Taylor will continue having the biggest era of the last four years, and sweep both the VMAs and the Grammys, and Nicki will continue losing fans, losing sales and losing future nominations. What a shame.

I have never seen a more flawless post oprah2 Thank you

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fff the LIES. 

 

She broke the vevo record? Wow so impressive. That has SO much influence. NOT. We're talking about sales. PURE SALES. Anaconda sold the same as Unconditionally and Do What You Want. So apart from streams, yes it was a complete flop. #2 on the H100 means nothing when you can't sell 2 million. In comparison, 3 of the other videos sold WAY more than that. 7/11 is the exception. Beyonce, even with flop singles, will still draw in viewers (especially after the Grammy outrage). Nicki minaj will not. 

 

And no she was NOT referring to last year's VMAs. She said NOMINATED. She did not say WON. Miley won the VMA. And you're also completely wrong. Anaconda BOMBED after Week One. Wrecking Ball stayed constant for MONTHS. Wrecking Ball also sold 3 million; DOUBLE what Anaconda did and had global success. The jury is out on this one. Miley's video also did not feature "slim bodies". That was Taylor who used models in her video. 

 

Every stanbase uses the Vevo Record card so don't act like it's nothing. lj1 Anyways, a hit is a hit is it not? People remember Anaconda way more than they do Unconditionally and DWUW. Just because it doesn't have the greatest sales doesn't mean it is not a hit and isn't remembered by the public. Also, she even retweeted a tweet that mentioned multiple people such as Miley and Robin Thicke for featuring thin women in their videos, so it clearly wasn't directed solely at Taylor, Taylor just took it that way. And Wrecking Ball did better than Anaconda for the reasons Nicki has been stating since the very beginning of this feud.

 

 

Anaconda was a streaming hit because of the soft porn video. Nobody actually bought the single. rip3 How is a #2 peaking single only selling 2M when even Iggy's work, which I don't think even went Top 40, has sold 1M rip3

 

So a streaming hit is lesser than any other hit? rip3 Anaconda will be remembered just as much as any other top ten hit. There is a reason why Billboard changed it rules, and it's because sales are declining as streaming becomes more popular. So, just because the sales aren't as strong as others, doesn't mean it has no cultural impact.

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Anaconda is a hideous song, the only thing that saved it was that Baby Got Back sample and Nicki's ridiculous ass.. I can't at some of you who are trying to make it sound like its fucking Lauryn Hill you're talking about . rav2

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Every stanbase uses the Vevo Record card so don't act like it's nothing. lj1 Anyways, a hit is a hit is it not? People remember Anaconda way more than they do Unconditionally and DWUW. Just because it doesn't have the greatest sales doesn't mean it is not a hit and isn't remembered by the public. Also, she even retweeted a tweet that mentioned multiple people such as Miley and Robin Thicke for featuring thin women in their videos, so it clearly wasn't directed solely at Taylor, Taylor just took it that way. And Wrecking Ball did better than Anaconda for the reasons Nicki has been stating since the very beginning of this feud.

 

 

 

So a streaming hit is lesser than any other hit? rip3 Anaconda will be remembered just as much as any other top ten hit. There is a reason why Billboard changed it rules, and it's because sales are declining as streaming becomes more popular. So, just because the sales aren't as strong as others, doesn't mean it has no cultural impact.

The Vevo record IS nothing. 

 

Anaconda was not a hit. Like Drunk in Love, it's a song that struggled to sell 1.5m copies, but went #2 because of streams and then plummeted out of the chart since. 

 

And yes a streaming hit will always be less than any other hit. That's why Billboard keep the pure sales. They only changed the rules so their sales didn't look absolutely pitiful because they knows companies like Spotify have killed the market. No other respectable chart company would dare include YouTube in their methodology. 

 

Oh and FYI; she also favorited Taylor shade before Taylor even made her comments, so yes it WAS about Taylor, regardless of whether or not she was also aiming it at Miley.  At least both Taylor and Miley have class. 

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What Nicki said in her tweet was right - but it wasn't the point. She tried to spin her unnominated album as a result of racism and body shaming but it was baseless.

Yes white women and thin bodies are more loved in the mainstream, and yes Nicki has a point. But anaconda wasn't nominated not because of racism or body shaming, it wasn't nominated because it simply wasn't that great and instead of being graceful about it Nicki used the race card and whatnot as an excuse for her shitty anaconda music video and song. eve1

As popular and impactful as anaconda was, it wasn't a good video by any means.

 

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