Katy used real fur for her shoe line. Surprised?

[Jony 14,504]

9 hours ago, Earth Ripper said:

But I read that our digestive system is typically for herbivos and not omnivores

The biggest argument against natural meat consumption is of course that we don't possess the appropriate claws and/or teeth to catch/eat animals in their natural state, aka raw and without tools. And ofc raw meat basically kills us, unlike carnivores who have all sorts of protection measures in their digestive system

I mean, I'm not perfectly educated about the matter, I'm just telling you I actually read something different But you seem more informed so maybe you can counter everything I just said, please do you if you can I do find it an interesting subject

It's not, we have the appropriate enzymes to digest meat and its consumption was significant to human evolution. That's not to say that a vegan diet is not viable in the 21st century, it can be balanced with the right food choices and supplementation. 

[Kristina 16,962]

What are those

[Madonna 46,058]

26 minutes ago, Earth Ripper said:

But I read that our digestive system is typically for herbivos and not omnivores

The biggest argument against natural meat consumption is of course that we don't possess the appropriate claws and/or teeth to catch/eat animals in their natural state, aka raw and without tools. And ofc raw meat basically kills us, unlike carnivores who have all sorts of protection measures in their digestive system

I mean, I'm not perfectly educated about the matter, I'm just telling you I actually read something different But you seem more informed so maybe you can counter everything I just said, please do you if you can I do find it an interesting subject

Teeth and jaw:

- biting/tearing/ripping incisors and canines (like carnivores)

- chewing molars (like herbivores)

= omnivores

Digestive system:

- lack of cellulases or cellulosic symbionts (herbivores have that) 

- lots of proteases (that carnivores have) 

- we have sucrases that let us digest fruits

- Humans require vitamin B12 to thrive, which can only come from animal sources or certain bacteria (vegans must supplement their diet).

- We also require vitamin C, which is present in citrus fruits and organ meat, the latter probably being our evolutionary ancestor’s main source.

- very powerful livers (the detoxification organ)

- very strong ability to smell rot/decay/decomposition relative to other animals.

= we may have evolved as scavengers, eating dead (but not too decayed) carcasses killed by other animals

Evolution and relatives:

- our closest relatives, the chimpanzees are also omnivores

= 

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The leading theory as to how humans evolved is that we became long-distance runners and hunted food by running it down until it tired, and that our access to meat and protein enabled our brains to evolve further than otherwise. So meat-eating is in our history as well as our DNA and physiology.

Sources:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/12/23/how-humans-evolved-to-be-natural-omnivores/

https://www.vrg.org/nutshell/omni.htm - a vegetarian scientist actually did a research on the topic and proved that humans are omnivores rather than herbivores.

[JustHereForX 646]

hot

it's probalby fake fur/ fake obsessed katy haters

[Say Lou Lou 7,258]

Not this thread turning into a biology class

[Kleth 749]

Disgusting  Waiting for Sia response to this, must be really angry

[Reputation 2,391]

1 hour ago, Hermione said:

I still can't get over how fugly they are. Imagine dying for THOSE. Those poor bunnies better haunt Katy in the afterlife.

Katy has no principles per usual

[Dennis Reynolds 20,245]

@Hermione if the hooker thread left you cold, now's the time to fight like you wanted.

[Hermione 26,197]

Just now, Breathless Mahoney said:

@Hermione if the hooker thread left you cold, now's the time to fight like you wanted.

I only got a 76 on my last Biology exam, so let me not make a fool out of myself.

1 minute ago, lautnerfied said:

Katy has no principles per usual

Loving this tea! Nor does Taylor though.

[Madonna 46,058]

8 minutes ago, Jony said:

It's not, we have the appropriate enzymes to digest meat and its consumption was significant in human evolution. That's not to say that a vegan diet is not viable in the 21st century, it can be balanced with the right food choices and supplementation. 

 Exactly. It's more of an ethical and/or ecological choice.

[Kuba 14,372]

I get that this is tragic, I myself hate that this happened. But lets be real, I doubt she consciously allowed it to happen. Yeah she should've made it clear from the start she wanted no animal products, heck maybe she did, but as far as production goes she probably had little to no involvement. I truly do hope that she speaks up for this, or removes the shoes from sale. 

But it makes me wonder, is everyone here vegetarian/vegan? 

[SeekingThrill 10,039]

She used a rabbit to make a shoe that will look like a rabbit.  Some crazy twisted  Warholian experience. 

 

Why Katy, why?      

 

 

 

[Princess Aurora 31,670]

26 minutes ago, Dr. Slay said:

What the fuck I-

yeah it's a cultural difference, in Southern Italy we tend to eat rabbits I know it sounds weird to you but yeah we do 

[Mystique 7,665]

27 minutes ago, Dr. Slay said:

What the fuck I-

Eating rabbit meat is common in some cultures, why is that an issue?

[Dr. Slay 28,452]

1 minute ago, Princess Aurora said:

yeah it's a cultural difference, in Southern Italy we tend to eat rabbits I know it sounds weird to you but yeah we do 

Just now, Mystique said:

Eating rabbit meat is common in some cultures, why is that an issue?

Oh oops I never knew that sorry about that 

[Princess Aurora 31,670]

Just now, Dr. Slay said:

Oh oops I never knew that sorry about that 

no, it's okay. You didn't know that  

[Earth Ripper 4,994]

3 minutes ago, Cruella de Vil said:

- Humans require vitamin B12 to thrive, which can only come from animal sources or certain bacteria (vegans must supplement their diet).

That's still in debate tho Some authors even go as far to say that it's meat eaters who in the end require more B12 supplements than the average vegetarian because the average Western meat based diet destroys the body's ability to properly absorb B12..

16 minutes ago, Cruella de Vil said:

https://www.vrg.org/nutshell/omni.htm

That is a bullshit link No references at all to back up his claims.

24 minutes ago, Jony said:

It's not, we have the appropriate enzymes to digest meat and its consumption was significant in human evolution.

Well, that's true but that still doesn't make us omnivores per se I'm reading scholarly articles about it rn, and it seems like the matter is a lot more complex than I assumed it to be. A lot of the research that the typical arguments are based on has been questioned and partly debunked by post-2000 research  Anyway, I don't understand shit of all these articles with their technical language, but it seems to me that we became omnivores, which still leaves open the question what human beings are naturally designed to eat before specific circumstances made their mark.

I mean, I'm personally always quite amused by these discussions because there is no way anyone could ever defend the eating of processed animal foods as we do now So I feel like the whole debate is misguided from the start already. There's no denying that the classical Western diet is incredibly harmful. I feel like vegetarians etc. are judged disproportionately as if to eat like every other average Westerner is an example of eating responsibly/in line with evolution.

[Dr. Slay 28,452]

16 minutes ago, Princess Aurora said:

no, it's okay. You didn't know that  

Again deepest apologies of my ignorance  

[Kuba 14,372]

**I couldn't trace the original source, but this has been posted a lot on the facebook page. The shoes also appear to have been removed from her store! 

 

 

 

[Earth Ripper 4,994]

So is this being changed because of the backlash or was the fur inclusion itself an unauthorized mistake? I mean, wouldn't they have predicted this backlash?