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13 minutes ago, havok said:

Are you seriously bragging about those either pre-recorded or strained vocals? Resonant, bitch WHERE? Mariah's vocals from 94-96 were resonant, not this tragic mess of today. Go listen to Beyoncé if you don't know how powerful, on-key, resonant vocals sound like. Why are MC stans unable to accept the fact that her voice is gone and in shambles? 

Kii at VOL (which I like a lot) being "complex". fall8 Madonna has multiple songs that are far better, but anyway, do you. I don't precisely like her style of writing but alright, I'll give you that, she's a songwriter. 

And the banshee xtina that you love never knew what resonant is. Don't even try to suggest Mariah had no resonance before 1994 or past 1996. Because you know that is a lie. A liar is what you are. a prssed troll and liar.

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9 minutes ago, HninSi said:

So u can't come up with a madonna video sounding half as resonant as that, belting a C#5 maybe?

 

Which madonna song is as complex as "vision of love"? I asked you that.

 

Stay pressed to the T.

 

OP: musically NO.

 

 

Most of her songs don't even have belts to begin with. Madonna has never been a vocalist, she was never trained as one and she never claimed to be one, so stop embarrassing yourself. Why are you acting like singing is the only talent a human being can posses? Is it because that's the only thing your fave used to be good at? You don't need to remind us that's she's a one-trick pony. We are aware! fall8 

Let me turn the table tho; post a performance where Mariah delivers vocals, elaborated choreography, theatrics, visuals, a statement. In fewer words, art. I'll wait. Somehow according to this Mariah stan the art of performing and the human talents reduce to oversinging. fall8 

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@CrazyGifLady I just saw you're down-voting my posts, which means you're also probably quoting me. Don't bother, you're on my ignore list. Let me save you the trouble. Your fave's career is dead and her voice is gone. Seethe! nat2 

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^In fewer words, the discussion stemmed from asking about madonna's MUSICAL talents on stage. Kii.

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4 minutes ago, havok said:

Most of her songs don't even have belts to begin with. Madonna has never been a vocalist, she was never trained as one and she never claimed to be one, so stop embarrassing yourself. Why are you acting like singing is the only talent a human being can posses? Is it because that's the only thing your fave used to be good at? You don't need to remind us that's she's a one-trick pony. We are aware! fall8 

Let me turn the table tho; post a performance where Mariah delivers vocals, elaborated choreography, theatrics, visuals, a statement. In fewer words, art. I'll wait. Somehow according to this Mariah stan the art of performing and the human talents reduce to oversinging. fall8 

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@CrazyGifLady I just saw you're down-voting my posts, which means you're also probably quoting me. Don't bother, you're on my ignore list. Let me save you the trouble. Your fave's career is dead and her voice is gone. Seethe! nat2 

I don't care if i'm on your ignore list. I will still read you for what you are. Mariah can still sing. And you will deal troll.

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19 minutes ago, HninSi said:

^In fewer words, the discussion stemmed from asking about madonna's MUSICAL talents on stage. Kii.

She's a musician. She plays instruments, she writes lyrics and music, she also produces her material. She's not a virtuoso vocalist, but she can sing. Let me inform you that all those are music talents since you're apparently unaware. And she has sang and played instruments on stage. mad3 

But God forbid that she's not a one trick pony like Mariah! mad4 God forbid that she's not one-dimensional like Mariah! mad4 God forbid that she can do more than oversing! mad4 God forbid that she can deliver the whole package! mad4 God forbid that she can actually perform! mad4 God forbid that she has more than one talent!  mad4 God forbid that she can still do her thing even after +35 years in the industry! mad4

Meanwhile your fave can't do the one thing she was able to do on stage. Now she can only embarrass herself with her tragic attempts at singing and walking on stage a la Britney. Oh, but wait... at least Britney attempts to dance, can't say the same for Mariah. She's truly DONE! mad7 

Now, let's move on. Where's the video I asked for? nat2 

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2 hours ago, havok said:

She's a musician. She plays instruments, she writes lyrics and music, she also produces her material. She's not a virtuoso vocalist, but she can sing. Let me inform you that all those are music talents since you're apparently unaware. And she has sang and played instruments on stage. mad3 

But God forbid that she's not a one trick pony like Mariah! mad4 God forbid that she's not one-dimensional like Mariah! mad4 God forbid that she can do more than oversing! mad4 God forbid that she can deliver the whole package! mad4 God forbid that she can actually perform! mad4 God forbid that she has more than one talent!  mad4 God forbid that she can still do her thing even after +35 years in the industry! mad4

Meanwhile your fave can't do the one thing she was able to do on stage. Now she can only embarrass herself with her tragic attempts at singing and walking on stage a la Britney. Oh, but wait... at least Britney attempts to dance, can't say the same for Mariah. She's truly DONE! mad7 

Now, let's move on. Where's the video I asked for? nat2 

She can't deliver the whole package so have a seat.

Mariha can write and produce as well. One trick pony my ass.

 

Poor bitter troll. You can't debate with facts, only lies.

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On 2017-7-11 at 8:35 AM, HninSi said:

Mariah and the likes gained the applause just with a mic. Santana and the likes played their instruments exceptionally well and got the roar. What is madonna's musical talent on stage? What is she if we strip away the razzle dazzle?

Redirecting the pressed to this but I understand their need to write essays and blur things cos madonna doesn't have that raw talent on stage. Haha.

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3 hours ago, Red said:

Gaga literally changed on stage during the artrave lmfao2 In a paragraph entirely about Madonna and Mariah, you'd bring up Gaga. It's so embarrassing.

But it shouldn't be a surprise. Gaga is the most recent person to join the "keep Madonna stans pressed" list.

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MADONNA has ALWAYS been second best. she has been in the race for decades and someone younger, or more beautiful, or someone just plain better than her comes and passes her to the #1 spot (cersei lannister realness). these include: cher, cindi laupher, gaga, janet

 

will madonna ever pass the finish line? or will she continue to chase that #1 spot she has never achieved.  how will she race with that heavy oxygen tank?

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25 minutes ago, EWA said:

MADONNA has ALWAYS been second best. she has been in the race for decades and someone younger, or more beautiful, or someone just plain better than her comes and passes her to the #1 spot (cersei lannister realness). these include: cher, cindi laupher, gaga, janet

Yet she has outlasted all of them lmfao1 

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9 hours ago, Red said:

Gaga literally changed on stage during the artrave lmfao2 In a paragraph entirely about Madonna and Mariah, you'd bring up Gaga. It's so embarrassing.

It's scary how off point you are. rip4

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7 hours ago, HninSi said:

Redirecting the pressed to this but I understand their need to write essays and blur things cos madonna doesn't have that raw talent on stage. Haha.

But who cares about American Idol audition type of raw talent rip4 By that logic David Bowie, Bob Dylan, The Beatles, Bob Marley, Johnny Cash etc are trash. Unfortunately, for you, they're bigger musical icons than Mariah was or will ever be. Madonna's voice never stopped her from being the performer that she is, her artform is completely different. You coming for Madonna's lack of vocal acrobatics doesn't take anything away from what makes her unique so you're just throwing rocks in air. rip4

If you don't care for those things, then cool, go play in your own playground watching X Factor auditions. Let us enjoy visionary artists that changed the mainstream world of performance. sha1

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1 hour ago, EWA said:

MADONNA has ALWAYS been second best. she has been in the race for decades and someone younger, or more beautiful, or someone just plain better than her comes and passes her to the #1 spot (cersei lannister realness). these include: cher, cindi laupher, gaga, janet

 

will madonna ever pass the finish line? or will she continue to chase that #1 spot she has never achieved.  how will she race with that heavy oxygen tank?

Was she second best here ?

http://www.mediatraffic.de/countdown1986.htm

Here ? 

http://www.mediatraffic.de/countdown1989.htm

...Found it, here 

http://www.mediatraffic.de/countdown2000.htm

 

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11 minutes ago, Jjang said:

It's scary how off point you are. rip4

 

It's scary you think I was following the conversation tit for tat outside of that point rip4 

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10 minutes ago, Red said:

It's scary you think I was following the conversation tit for tat outside of that point rip4 

Then why quote me rip4

That person was claiming Madonna hides behind gimmicks and whatsoever so I told him if you made a clear observation you'd notice that one of his faves (Gaga) hides behind gimmicks while Madonna uses them to challenge her physically or artistically, just so he can differentiate the two. I'm just being nice and throughout so he can understand the truth that's all. :)

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27 minutes ago, Jjang said:

But who cares about American Idol audition type of raw talent rip4 By that logic David Bowie, Bob Dylan, The Beatles, Bob Marley, Johnny Cash etc are trash. Unfortunately, for you, they're bigger musical icons than Mariah was or will ever be. Madonna's voice never stopped her from being the performer that she is, her artform is completely different. You coming for Madonna's lack of vocal acrobatics doesn't take anything away from what makes her unique so you're just throwing rocks in air. rip4

If you don't care for those things, then cool, go play in your own playground watching X Factor auditions. Let us enjoy visionary artists that changed the mainstream world of performance. sha1

Lol, another essay. Those artists didn't use porn and they sang on key bey4

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Just now, HninSi said:

Lol, another essay. Those artists didn't use porn and they sang on key bey4

They literally didn't. rip4 There's more to vocal merit than riffs and a big range, you know.

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12 hours ago, HninSi said:

Redirecting the pressed to this but I understand their need to write essays and blur things cos madonna doesn't have that raw talent on stage. Haha.

Redirecting your delusional ass to this post that you conveniently ignored. 

12 hours ago, havok said:

She's a musician. She plays instruments, she writes lyrics and music, she also produces her material. She's not a virtuoso vocalist, but she can sing. Let me inform you that all those are music talents since you're apparently unaware. And she has sang and played instruments on stage. mad3

But God forbid that she's not a one trick pony like Mariah! mad4 God forbid that she's not one-dimensional like Mariah! mad4 God forbid that she can do more than oversing! mad4 God forbid that she can deliver the whole package! mad4 God forbid that she can actually perform! mad4 God forbid that she has more than one talent!  mad4 God forbid that she can still do her thing even after +35 years in the industry! mad4

Meanwhile your fave can't do the one thing she was able to do on stage. Now she can only embarrass herself with her tragic attempts at singing and walking on stage a la Britney. Oh, but wait... at least Britney attempts to dance, can't say the same for Mariah. She's truly DONE! mad7 

Now, let's move on. Where's the video I asked for? nat2 

 

Now, here are just a few examples of my talented fave showcasing her musical talents without a big production as you requested:  

In before you claim she's not "talented" because she's not screaming and oversinging her way trough every song. I forgot that oversinging is the only musical talent a human can posses according to you. mad4 Now, where's the video I requested about Mariah? Let me guess, you're gonna keep deflecting. nat2 

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6 hours ago, havok said:

 

Redirecting your delusional ass to this post that you conveniently ignored. 

Now, here are just a few examples of my talented fave showcasing her musical talents without a big production as you requested:  

In before you claim she's not "talented" because she's not screaming and oversinging her way trough every song. I forgot that oversinging is the only musical talent a human can posses according to you. mad4 Now, where's the video I requested about Mariah? Let me guess, you're gonna keep deflecting. nat2 

Lol at this elitist trying to come for Mariah's vocals saying she screams and oversings. And saying her music has no value because she hasn't the same approach as madonna.

 

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LMAO, those videos. anna1 Thanks for proving my point tho. 

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