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Madonna's streaming numbers are not even horrible. kylie2 She has more Spotify followers than Mariah / Celine and over a billion total streams based on Spotify plays alone. LAP has 80m + streams, MG, LAV and Vogue all have 50m + kylie2 LAB / HU 40m + kylie2 ITG / PDP / Holiday / Frozen 20m + kylie2 And mind you, she's not half as promoted as the other legends on streaming services because her label sucks. 

As for YouTube : 

Hung Up : 

Date ▾ Views
2017/10/19 133,251
2017/10/18 127,814
2017/10/17 123,229
2017/10/16 122,958
2017/10/15 133,338
2017/10/14 160,931
2017/10/13 154,349
2017/10/12 135,718

La Isla Bonita :
Date Views
2017/10/15 224,670
2017/10/16 191,180
2017/10/17 185,745
2017/10/18 195,726
2017/10/19 200,986
2017/10/20 224,908
2017/10/21 262,914
2017/10/22 238,913

 
Like a Prayer ;
Date Views
2017/10/15 103,175
2017/10/16 95,580
2017/10/17 95,756
2017/10/18 99,637
2017/10/19 106,612
2017/10/20 124,291
2017/10/21 134,147
2017/10/22 116,019

 

Papa Don't Preach has 74k daily views if you count both uploads, Material Girl is already getting 70k + daily views and it was only uploaded 2 months ago kylie2

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Jjang said:

I didn't agree that she's extremely close to Madonna's sales and listed a couple of reasons of why I don't think she will surpass her eventually. How is that a wrong move of mine? It's literally the most basic form of communication ; you wrote something I didn't agree with and I replied with a proper counter comment. It did not warrant the boring stan war that followed.

But that's a double edged sword, that works in Madonna's favor, that's what you're not getting. The climate did change, no one's denying that, but it also changed in favor of single sales, massively, and given the ratio in terms of single vs album releases there's no arguing that when it comes to the deceiving status that is "record sales" the climate shift benefited newer artists (esp. the ones who's peak came in mid 000s to early 10s like Rihanna's). You can't talk about the climate shift in terms of album sales and then make a sweeping argument about how Rihanna's "only" 100m records behind, no, she's more than 200m albums behind. Madonna's just the bigger album seller, Rihanna never had the biggest album of a certain year, Madonna did, a few times, Madonna is the best selling female of the 80's in terms of albums and has the best selling female album of that decade, Rihanna doesn't have that either. On top of Madonna being cleaarly the bigger album artists, she's just as much of a singles force, given her BB history. That's the point I'm trying to make. Madonna's bigger, period.

 

you didn't take time into account. you didn't consider rih's age, the current sales climate, madonna's career spanning 30+ years, how the sales climate worked in her favor, etc... THEN you magically want rih to play with according to your rules, no.. this is not how it works..

also i didn't say rih is a big album seller, go back to my posts, dummy, you'd see i said her album sales weren't the tea and how her singles are what made the difference, that's the things with u madonna stans, you are VERY selective with everything. 

i said she's 2nd to madonna, so this also means i indirectly acknowledged madonna is #1, hell in my initial post, at page #1 i've said it. lmfao2  honestly you are not connecting all my posts and i don't have the time to collect the puzzle for you. 

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24 minutes ago, Michael. said:

we are just fooling around not posting receipts over a few troll posts like y'all

your insecurity is showing

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The fact they take everything here literally fall3 what the fuck this place turned into fall3 

 

Well at least I turned another thread into a hit fall3 

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3 minutes ago, BEAUX said:

you didn't take time into account. you didn't consider rih's age, the current sales climate, madonna's career spanning 30+ years, how the sales climate worked in her favor, etc... THEN you magically want rih to play with according to your rules, no.. this is not how it works..

also i didn't say rih is a big album seller, go back to my posts, dummy, you'd see i said her album sales weren't the tea and how her singles are what made the difference, that's the things with u madonna stans, you are VERY selective with everything. 

i said she's 2nd to madonna, so this also means i indirectly acknowledged madonna is #1, hell in my initial post, at page #1 i've said it. lmfao2  honestly you are not connecting all my posts and i don't have the time to collect the puzzle for you. 

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But I acknowledged that the album sales' climate is in favor of Madonna's, you're the one not acknowledging that Rihanna has a massive advantage in terms of single sales because of the very same climatekylie2

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2 minutes ago, Urbi said:

The fact they take everything here literally fall3 what the fuck this place turned into fall3 

 

Well at least I turned another thread into a hit fall3 

they have to make sure receipts are posted no matter what

cringe

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2 minutes ago, Jjang said:

Madonna's streaming numbers are not even horrible. kylie2 She has more Spotify followers than Mariah / Celine and over a billion total streams based on Spotify plays alone. LAP has 80m + streams, MG, LAV and Vogue all have 50m + kylie2 LAB / HU 40m + kylie2 ITG / PDP / Holiday / Frozen 20m + kylie2 And mind you, she's not half as promoted as the other legends on streaming services because her label sucks. 

As for YouTube : 

Hung Up : 

Date ▾ Views
2017/10/19 133,251
2017/10/18 127,814
2017/10/17 123,229
2017/10/16 122,958
2017/10/15 133,338
2017/10/14 160,931
2017/10/13 154,349
2017/10/12 135,718

La Isla Bonita :
Date Views
2017/10/15 224,670
2017/10/16 191,180
2017/10/17 185,745
2017/10/18 195,726
2017/10/19 200,986
2017/10/20 224,908
2017/10/21 262,914
2017/10/22 238,913

 
Like a Prayer ;
Date Views
2017/10/15 103,175
2017/10/16 95,580
2017/10/17 95,756
2017/10/18 99,637
2017/10/19 106,612
2017/10/20 124,291
2017/10/21 134,147
2017/10/22 116,019

 

Papa Don't Preach has 74k daily views if you count both uploads, Material Girl is already getting 70k + daily views and it was only uploaded 2 months ago kylie2

 

 

 

awwwww, look who's butthurt about his fave streaming shortcomings? awwww

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3 minutes ago, Jjang said:

Madonna's streaming numbers are not even horrible. kylie2 She has more Spotify followers than Mariah / Celine and over a billion total streams based on Spotify plays alone. LAP has 80m + streams, MG, LAV and Vogue all have 50m + kylie2 LAB / HU 40m + kylie2 ITG / PDP / Holiday / Frozen 20m + kylie2 And mind you, she's not half as promoted as the other legends on streaming services because her label sucks. 

As for YouTube : 

Hung Up : 

Date ▾ Views
2017/10/19 133,251
2017/10/18 127,814
2017/10/17 123,229
2017/10/16 122,958
2017/10/15 133,338
2017/10/14 160,931
2017/10/13 154,349
2017/10/12 135,718

La Isla Bonita :
Date Views
2017/10/15 224,670
2017/10/16 191,180
2017/10/17 185,745
2017/10/18 195,726
2017/10/19 200,986
2017/10/20 224,908
2017/10/21 262,914
2017/10/22 238,913

 
Like a Prayer ;
Date Views
2017/10/15 103,175
2017/10/16 95,580
2017/10/17 95,756
2017/10/18 99,637
2017/10/19 106,612
2017/10/20 124,291
2017/10/21 134,147
2017/10/22 116,019

 

Papa Don't Preach has 74k daily views if you count both uploads, Material Girl is already getting 70k + daily views and it was only uploaded 2 months ago kylie2

 

 

 

Rihanna outstreamed lol

a flop

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3 minutes ago, Urbi said:

Rihanna isn’t groundbreaking fall3 She already has more #1s than your fave but she isn’t groundbreaking ok fall3 This delusion is out of control

 

I rely on personal insults but you’re the one who called me dumb, stupid etc when you didn’t have shit for back up fall3 Screaming fall3 

Oh so we agree that rhianna is nothing but numbers? fall3

 

Nnn THE FUCK, you're literally making fool of yourself once again since it was you who ran in here first writing personal insults first because yo had nothing but fake numbers to post fall3

and i already posted receipts of that pages ago and like always you ignored itlmfao2 

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2 minutes ago, Michael. said:

they have to make sure receipts are posted no matter what

cringe

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LITERALLY fall3 

 

“Rihanna starring in a new movie made by...”

 

BUT MADONNA IS AT #161 IN AUSTRALIA

 

fall3fall3fall3fall3 

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15 minutes ago, Angelus said:

the fact that you're still playing dumb fall3

Or actually not playing fall3

 

You're still trying after you were dragged to shit and back  fall3

 

That’s the huge difference between us: I’m playing dumb, you on the other hand...

 

fall3 

 

Still not giving up, Madonna must be proud of you honey fall3 

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1 minute ago, Jjang said:

But I acknowledged that the album sales' climate is in favor of Madonna's, you're not the one acknowledging that Rihanna has a massive advantage in terms of single sales because of the very same climatekylie2

okay, but should i blame the climate now? like what's your argument, jjang? cuz i'm truthfully losing patience with your non-arguments. 

rih obviously is all about singles, i've already acknowledged that, and no one disagreed cuz it is a fact (my god!) but is that a bad thing when albums sales are the pits unless you are like adele? if selling singles will put you up there then why not? rih can't go back to the 80s and compete with madonna, we can't change how time works, dude. rih being compared to madge is unfair to rih since she is younger (age and career-wise), but this didn't stop rih from holding her own so fuckin' well, acknowledge that and stop being insecure like your fellow M stan.

you have no solid argument from the looks of it, but i'd waste a couple of minutes seeing if you have one.

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