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Xtina    13,010
26 minutes ago, Taschens said:

brit15

Ok that explains it all. 

I get that the song might seem a little bit sensitive to you, however you are taking it that way because of your personal background. I've never been in a toxic relationship, maybe that's the reason for me is just a song that speaks about a couple with some struggles but, despite that they love each other. It's obvious that the song is personal to Xtina, and that doesn't mean she's abusive or in a toxic relationship with Matt. 

Yeah people in relationships where abuse happens can and usually still very much love their partner(s), and, we shouldn't normalize love as a reason why deliberately hurting someone is ok. I obviously have this baggage and songs that present this idea of "it's ok because we love each other" make me sick.

Plus, the way the song is written doesn't convey that there's any compassion or empathy towards whoever she is singing this towards. "why did you do that?" reads "you made me do this" and "let's fix this" conveys that the issue is with both of them when there's just one person saying "fucked up shit just to hurt [them]".

Yeah, it's a no from me.

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Taschens    3,539
11 minutes ago, Xtina said:

Yeah people in relationships where abuse happens can and usually still very much love their partner(s), and, we shouldn't normalize love as a reason why deliberately hurting someone is ok. I obviously have this baggage and songs that present this idea of "it's ok because we love each other" make me sick.

Plus, the way the song is written doesn't convey that there's any compassion or empathy towards whoever she is singing this towards. "why did you do that?" reads "you made me do this" and "let's fix this" conveys that the issue is with both of them when there's just one person saying "fucked up shit just to hurt [them]".

Yeah, it's a no from me.

If you pay attention you can hear a man singing throughout the whole song. It's not only "she" who is hurting "him", is in both ways.

Anyway, you don't like the song that's fine. 

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Muse    50,812
1 hour ago, Xtina said:

Yeah people in relationships where abuse happens can and usually still very much love their partner(s), and, we shouldn't normalize love as a reason why deliberately hurting someone is ok. I obviously have this baggage and songs that present this idea of "it's ok because we love each other" make me sick.

Plus, the way the song is written doesn't convey that there's any compassion or empathy towards whoever she is singing this towards. "why did you do that?" reads "you made me do this" and "let's fix this" conveys that the issue is with both of them when there's just one person saying "fucked up shit just to hurt [them]".

Yeah, it's a no from me.

Not liking the song is fine, but don't act like an expert in everyone's relationship when there are two sides. 

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TheRoxxtar    1,871
11 hours ago, Xtina said:

Wow, I can't relate to saying fucked up shit JUST TO HURT someone I love. I'm sad this is your idea of a normal relationship.

I understand you don't like it because you feel like it is about abuse, but I also feel like you are taking one line of the song and focusing on that instead of taking context from the rest of it. I don't think the objective is literally JUST to hurt the other person... I think it's about times when you might feel hurt in a situation and so you say something to kind of get back at that person. The lyrics mention things like getting calls from another girl, so perhaps some jealously kicks in and something like, "Well maybe you should go be with her" kind of thing is said. Which I do think can be relatable...

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Philip    104,374
11 hours ago, Muse said:

Wait, is she referring to a penis when she sings about a pipe? brit3

um2 girl...

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Muse    50,812
3 hours ago, TheRoxxtar said:

I understand you don't like it because you feel like it is about abuse, but I also feel like you are taking one line of the song and focusing on that instead of taking context from the rest of it. I don't think the objective is literally JUST to hurt the other person... I think it's about times when you might feel hurt in a situation and so you say something to kind of get back at that person. The lyrics mention things like getting calls from another girl, so perhaps some jealously kicks in and something like, "Well maybe you should go be with her" kind of thing is said. Which I do think can be relatable...

This. I don't think anyone thinks that's how a normal, healthy relationship is. 

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Muse    50,812

Liberation is all over my Facebook newsfeed and the comments are all positive brit2

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Kirjava    7,242
On 6/16/2018 at 12:26 PM, Luca said:

Why does literally EVERYONE pay dust to the album opener? It's one of the best composed tracks I've ever heard! clap1 

Bitch I've been stanning for it hardcore in this thread. clap1 It's so gorgeous. cry7 She needs to include more strings in her music tbh.

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