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  1. 1. Should IVF be legal?

  2. 2. Do you think that Dolce and Gabbana are homophobic?



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3 hours ago, Galactic-Tiger said:

Oh wow the amount of TEA I spilled here. tea1tea1tea1

I didn't realize I was this wise ngl. This got to be my best thread ever in terms of quality. godmotherfucker.png

Even if you were the owner of Twinings, you still wouldn't know what tea was

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6 minutes ago, Sleep Deprived said:

Even if you were the owner of Twinings, you still wouldn't know what tea was

obviously I would know but you would still be the last person to whom I would like to sell it, so rather than us agreeing to disagree why don’t you just be quiet. 

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22 hours ago, Galactic-Tiger said:

obviously I would know but you would still be the last person to whom I would like to sell it, so rather than us agreeing to disagree why don’t you just be quiet. 

My tea is the finest blend and is therefore a luxury item, but I do give concessions for down and outs jj2

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2 hours ago, Sleep Deprived said:

My tea is the finest blend and is therefore a luxury item, but I do give concessions for down and outs jj2

lmfao2 finest in self-delusion 

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23 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said:

No tea spilled here, just homophobia. jj4

If there is homophobia then it is due to your comments not mine. jj4

Fotp community is truly living up its urban dictionary's top definition. gaga5

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On 2/6/2020 at 4:20 PM, Galactic-Tiger said:

Oh wow the amount of TEA I spilled here. tea1tea1tea1

I didn't realize I was this wise ngl. This got to be my best thread ever in terms of quality. godmotherfucker.png

faggot

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4 hours ago, Galactic-Tiger said:

If there is homophobia then it is due to your comments not mine. jj4

Fotp community is truly living up its urban dictionary's top definition. gaga5

What the hell? lmfao2

I'm a GAY PERSON why would I be homophobic? When you're literally in here defending homophobic comments?

And do you even realize IVF benefits HETEROSEXUAL people with fertility problems too? I — why do we let trolls like this on here?

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2 hours ago, Miss Show Business said:

What the hell? lmfao2

I'm a GAY PERSON why would I be homophobic? When you're literally in here defending homophobic comments?

And do you even realize IVF benefits HETEROSEXUAL people with fertility problems too? I — why do we let trolls like this on here?

I'm a GAY PERSON TOO ffs!!!  And I'm not defending the homophobic comments from other fotp users like @tomás, I'm just expressing my opinion on a forum and I'm trying to rise awareness on a topic that risks to damage the image of the gay community. Heterosexual couples with fertility problem are a different story because they can still provide the child with the essential male and female love, but ivf remains a controversial procedure also for them.

7 hours ago, tomás said:

faggot

That's a homophobic word. I'm disgusted anna1

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24 minutes ago, Galactic-Tiger said:

That's a homophobic word. I'm disgusted anna1

ok fruity

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1 hour ago, Galactic-Tiger said:

I'm a GAY PERSON TOO ffs!!!  And I'm not defending the homophobic comments from other fotp users like @tomás, I'm just expressing my opinion on a forum and I'm trying to rise awareness on a topic that risks to damage the image of the gay community. Heterosexual couples with fertility problem are a different story because they can still provide the child with the essential male and female love, but ivf remains a controversial procedure also for them.

That's a homophobic word. I'm disgusted anna1

Male and female love?

What the fuck kind of backwards ass statement is this?

Love has no gender.

Studies show same sex parents are JUST AS CAPABLE if not MORE capable parents than heterosexual parents.

You are invalidating millions of gay parents and their families. Shame!

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1 hour ago, Miss Show Business said:

Male and female love?

What the fuck kind of backwards ass statement is this?

Love has no gender.

Studies show same sex parents are JUST AS CAPABLE if not MORE capable parents than heterosexual parents.

You are invalidating millions of gay parents and their families. Shame!

Look, man and women are not different just because of their appeareance. SCIENCE has proved that they got different emotional response to the world. There is an entire branch of science called neuroscience of sex difference that studies the sexual dimorphism of brain structures. You are invalidating years and years of scientific work so shame on you!  
That said,  there are kids who grew up without one or both parents and yet they are ok. I personally got a friend who grew up thanks to lovely nuns and she turned out a great person (she wouldn't be my friend otherwise). l also got friends who grew up with only one parent and yes single parents are capable too to raise a kid. So obviously also kids who are raised by same sex couples can turn up well. But that doesn't take away the fact that they grew up without experiencing the different type of love of a mother and a father. Do my friends suffered for not having both parents? I've asked them and yes they would have preferred to have both of them. A friend of mine got only her mother cuz her father died. Did she prefer to have her dad still alive?  Obviously yes but she still managed to grow up happyly.

What I'm trying to say is that in principle every kid should have the right to have both a mother and a father. Then there are exceptions. However by demanding to be parents at all costs the same-sex couples are making the exceptions become the normality. That is not acceptable imo because kids should have the right to grow up under the best possibile condition which is by being loved by their biological mother and father. They should not suffer because their parents cannot breast feed or because they feel excluded while celebrating the mother's day with the other kids. A girl raised by two men should not suffer/be embarrassed because she cannot explain to her two dads what it feels like to have menstruation or because she doesn't look like her dads at all but she looks exactly like a stranger woman met on a bus who years before sold her uterus to her two dads.

Especially when we're young it is definitely an advantage to have both a male and female role model to look up to. So why deny this advantage?

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1 hour ago, Galactic-Tiger said:

anna1

i'm being just as homophobic as u are. hope u get that internal discomfort with your sexuality fixed batty boy

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1 hour ago, tomás said:

i'm being just as homophobic as u are. hope u get that internal discomfort with your sexuality fixed batty boy

Bullshit. I'm expressing a general concept, meanwhile you are calling me names. Obviously you have the right to disagree with my opinion, but you don't have the right to insult me as a person just cuz you disagree with me. Moreover, I'm a proud gay person so I can ensure you that I got no interest to promote homophobia with my opinions.

Instead of labelling me as homophobe and hoping for my internal discomfort, why don't you use your time for something more productive? 

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37 minutes ago, Galactic-Tiger said:

Bullshit. I'm expressing a general concept, meanwhile you are calling me names. Obviously you have the right to disagree with my opinion, but you don't have the right to insult me as a person just cuz you disagree with me. Moreover, I'm a proud gay person so I can ensure you that I got no interest to promote homophobia with my opinions.

Instead of labelling me as homophobe and hoping for my internal discomfort, why don't you use your time for something more productive? 

how is calling you a faggot insulting you as a person? you share views with people that are usually racist and mysoginistic.
 

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, no matter how much two parents of the same sex loves you, they cannot supply you with a series of material and psychological things. For instance, two men cannot supply you with their own breast milk, with few exceptions.

there's no need for that. there's formula. a lot of straight women don't breast-feed their children either because they work and they don't have the time for it.
 

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 Moreover, two lesbian will never be able teach a young straight boy to play football or pick up a girl, with some exceptions. Thoughts?

that's just straight up sexist rip4 and particulary ironic because lesbian women are portrayed as butch and manly and generally being interested in football and "picking up girls" are what they're usually frowned upon for.

my thoughts? you're homophobic. <3

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1 hour ago, tomás said:

how is calling you a faggot insulting you as a person? you share views with people that are usually racist and mysoginistic.
 

there's no need for that. there's formula. a lot of straight women don't breast-feed their children either because they work and they don't have the time for it.
 

that's just straight up sexist rip4 and particulary ironic because lesbian women are portrayed as butch and manly and generally being interested in football and "picking up girls" are what they're usually frowned upon for.

my thoughts? you're homophobic. <3

r u kidding me or did u think to make a compliment by calling me faggot? I did not call you any derogative slang so I appreciate if you do the same, thanks.

Also, I'm glad you payed attention to the examples rather the general concept. I even said that there are exceptions. I dunno in which world you live, but if you are watching the Earth world cup you will realize that football players are men only. Woman play football at lower level. Men are statistically more incline to like football and they are better at playing it because biologically speaking they have more testosterone which translates in more muscles. A man's leg is about 80 percent muscle, compared with about 60 percent muscle in a woman's leg. That extra muscle can help men run faster and be better at football.
Moreover it is also an established scientific fact that breast feed is very important for a child. I'm aware that there are kids who don't get breast feed but those kids are disavantaged according to science not me. So as a general principle a kid should have the right to have grow up in the best possible way which implies breast feed and women should be able to do it without losing their job. Then there are exceptionals cases in which it is not possible but that should not be the normality. Trying to justify gay parenting using the exceptional cases makes no sense. So my thoughts are that you are just ignorant.

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21 minutes ago, Galactic-Tiger said:

r u kidding me or did u think to make a compliment by calling me faggot? I did not call you any derogative slang so I appreciate if you do the same, thanks.

Also, I'm glad you payed attention to the examples rather the general concept. I even said that there are exceptions. I dunno in which world you live, but if you are watching the Earth world cup you will realize that football players are men only. Woman play football at lower level. Men are statistically more incline to like football and they are better at playing it because biologically speaking they have more testosterone which translates in more muscles. A man's leg is about 80 percent muscle, compared with about 60 percent muscle in a woman's leg. That extra muscle can help men run faster and be better at football.
Moreover it is also an established scientific fact that breast feed is very important for a child. I'm aware that there are kids who don't get breast feed but those kids are disavantaged according to science not me. So as a general principle a kid should have the right to have grow up in the best possible way which implies breast feed and women should be able to do it without losing their job. Then there are exceptionals cases in which it is not possible but that should not be the normality. Trying to justify gay parenting using the exceptional cases makes no sense. So my thoughts are that you are just ignorant.

why are you comparing parents teaching their children football to ATHLETES? in any case a woman's legs are stronger than a kid's leg's, even if they're male. 
children that get adopted by gay people aren't going to get breast fed anyhow because they don't have a biological mother taking care of them, that's why they're ADOPTED. same with straight couples adopting, so your point makes absolutely NO sense. you're just grasping at concepts you have no understanding of to try to validate your homophobic point of view.

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