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1 minute ago, Q U E E N said:

Sweetie keep believing your own lies if it makes you feel better but a contract breach is not something Mariah does. She knows contracts like the back of her hand, look at the inconvenience fee she got out of that billionaire. 

Yawn. Delusion and more delusion. 

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Just now, Jjang said:

IMO it is tragic. There are several theaters that had a capacity of 3-6k and she couldn't sell them out with her cheap ass tickets. Her stats in Europe are even worse.

For Madonna, this would be absolutely tragic but for Mariah? Honestly, I don’t think she has ever been a touring force nor known for her performances, on top of that, vocalists like her are generally very weak in the tours department so it doesn’t even shock me. 

She should be doing slightly better though, especially in small venues like theaters, but she has gotten so much bad press over the years for her vocals and it’s not like her tours don’t consist on the same shit. People would rather play one of her CDs to hear her belt than pay to see her live. lol3

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11 minutes ago, Michael. said:

For Madonna, this would be absolutely tragic but for Mariah? Honestly, I don’t think she has ever been a touring force nor known for her performances, on top of that, vocalists like her are generally very weak in the tours department so it doesn’t even shock me. 

She should be doing slightly better though, especially in small venues like theaters, but she has gotten so much bad press over the years for her vocals and it’s not like her tours don’t consist on the same shit. People would rather play one of her CDs to hear her belt than pay to see her live. lol3

Yeah, she's a total borefest live, not really a performer in the sense of the word. Like when you watch Celine, there's an actual craft being mastered on stage, she's a good performer, like you can actually see her taking a big sigh and being tired after her show lmao if that makes sense. That's why she's a touring force, Barbra too, Whitney was too for a while... and Adele. oprah14

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Angels advocate tour was a very intimate experience for Mariah and fans. She sang some fan faves.

 

But not all her shows are commercial flops. I understand why madonna fans don't post boxscores like this in BG.

 

Mariah Carey, Nick Cannon, Andrew De Silva
Allphones Arena
Sydney, Australia
Jan. 3, 2013
$2,501,820
13,371 / 13,371 (100%)
1 / 1
$260.63, $103.63
Retfar Entertainment/UAE Presents

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4 hours ago, visionofrain said:

You dont know anything, talking rubbish,

She did the SSFT in the middle of her vegas contract so you are a liar. Expose yourself liar. 

Look who is talking about others being liars. An user that says to be a fan. Yet has been bashing Mariah non stop the moment he got access to BG. Mariah stays legendary honey. She has nothing left to prove.

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Just now, light741 said:

Look who is talking about others being liars. An user that says to be a fan. Yet has been bashing Mariah non stop the moment he got access to BG. Mariah stays legendary honey. She has nothing left to prove.

Stay on topic please. No one has time for your irrelevant spam. 

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4 hours ago, Jjang said:

Yeah, she's a total borefest live, not really a performer in the sense of the word. Like when you watch Celine, there's an actual craft being mastered on stage, she's a good performer, like you can actually see her taking a big sigh and being tired after her show lmao if that makes sense. That's why she's a touring force, Barbra too, Whitney was too for a while... and Adele. oprah14

Mariah was not struggling to sell ticket when her voice was at her best. She should have done more back then. But today with all the scandals is no surprise she is not a touring force.

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2 minutes ago, visionofrain said:

Stay on topic please. No one has time for your irrelevant spam. 

Last time i checked this thread was not about Mariah's tours, yet you went there. So nice try. 2092150964_misfitsbye.thumb.gif.53a7af81

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4 hours ago, Michael. said:

For Madonna, this would be absolutely tragic but for Mariah? Honestly, I don’t think she has ever been a touring force nor known for her performances, on top of that, vocalists like her are generally very weak in the tours department so it doesn’t even shock me. 

She should be doing slightly better though, especially in small venues like theaters, but she has gotten so much bad press over the years for her vocals and it’s not like her tours don’t consist on the same shit. People would rather play one of her CDs to hear her belt than pay to see her live. lol3

she doesnt belt live anyway. all her climaxes are lipped. 

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3 hours ago, HninSi said:

Angels advocate tour was a very intimate experience for Mariah and fans. She sang some fan faves.

 

But not all her shows are commercial flops. I understand why madonna fans don't post boxscores like this in BG.

 

Mariah Carey, Nick Cannon, Andrew De Silva
Allphones Arena
Sydney, Australia
Jan. 3, 2013
$2,501,820
13,371 / 13,371 (100%)
1 / 1
$260.63, $103.63
Retfar Entertainment/UAE Presents

Intimate if you mean poor sales then yes it was intimate. Very. 

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7 hours ago, HninSi said:

Angels advocate tour was a very intimate experience for Mariah and fans. She sang some fan faves.

 

But not all her shows are commercial flops. I understand why madonna fans don't post boxscores like this in BG.

 

Mariah Carey, Nick Cannon, Andrew De Silva
Allphones Arena
Sydney, Australia
Jan. 3, 2013
$2,501,820
13,371 / 13,371 (100%)
1 / 1
$260.63, $103.63
Retfar Entertainment/UAE Presents

You make it sound like she has many of those, when in fact, you can count them on one hand.

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6 hours ago, Jjang said:

You make it sound like she has many of those, when in fact, you can count them on one hand.

Mariah Carey
Aloha Stadium
Honolulu, Hawaii
Feb. 21, 1998
$1,744,210
30,415 / 30,415 (100%)
1 / 1
$65, $45, $35
PACE Touring, Tom Moffatt Prods.

Mariah Carey, Da Brat
Staples Center
Los Angeles, Calif.
March 16, 2000
$990,648
15,627 / 15,627 (100%)
1 / 1
$85, $55, $29.50
Concerts West, Nederlander Organization

Mariah Carey, Da Brat
Thomas & Mack Center
Las Vegas, Nev.
March 18, 2000
$681,068
13,591 / 13,591 (100%)
1 / 1
$65.50, $49.50, $27.50
Concerts West

Mariah Carey, Da Brat
San Jose Arena
San Jose, Calif.
March 21, 2000
$862,170
13,999 / 13,999 (100%)
1 / 1
$85, $29.50
Concerts West

Mariah Carey, Da Brat
United Center
Chicago, Ill.
March 25, 2000
$848,156
14,892 / 14,892 (100%)
1 / 1
$75, $27.50
Concerts West

Mariah Carey, Da Brat
Madison Square Garden
New York, N.Y.
April 11, 2000
$1,066,413
14,870 / 14,870 (100%)
1 / 1
$85, $29.50
Concerts West

Mariah Carey, Sean Paul
Air Canada Centre
Toronto, Ontario
Aug. 13, 29, 2006
$2,039,161
27,064 / 27,064 (100%)
2 / 2
$109.50, $18
Live Nation

Mariah Carey, Sean Paul
Madison Square Garden
New York, N.Y.
Aug. 23, 2006
$1,300,140
13,930 / 13,930 (100%)
1 / 1
$150, $19
Live Nation

That's more than one hand and she has more.

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1 hour ago, HninSi said:

Mariah Carey
Aloha Stadium
Honolulu, Hawaii
Feb. 21, 1998
$1,744,210
30,415 / 30,415 (100%)
1 / 1
$65, $45, $35
PACE Touring, Tom Moffatt Prods.

Mariah Carey, Da Brat
Staples Center
Los Angeles, Calif.
March 16, 2000
$990,648
15,627 / 15,627 (100%)
1 / 1
$85, $55, $29.50
Concerts West, Nederlander Organization

Mariah Carey, Da Brat
Thomas & Mack Center
Las Vegas, Nev.
March 18, 2000
$681,068
13,591 / 13,591 (100%)
1 / 1
$65.50, $49.50, $27.50
Concerts West

Mariah Carey, Da Brat
San Jose Arena
San Jose, Calif.
March 21, 2000
$862,170
13,999 / 13,999 (100%)
1 / 1
$85, $29.50
Concerts West

Mariah Carey, Da Brat
United Center
Chicago, Ill.
March 25, 2000
$848,156
14,892 / 14,892 (100%)
1 / 1
$75, $27.50
Concerts West

Mariah Carey, Da Brat
Madison Square Garden
New York, N.Y.
April 11, 2000
$1,066,413
14,870 / 14,870 (100%)
1 / 1
$85, $29.50
Concerts West

Mariah Carey, Sean Paul
Air Canada Centre
Toronto, Ontario
Aug. 13, 29, 2006
$2,039,161
27,064 / 27,064 (100%)
2 / 2
$109.50, $18
Live Nation

Mariah Carey, Sean Paul
Madison Square Garden
New York, N.Y.
Aug. 23, 2006
$1,300,140
13,930 / 13,930 (100%)
1 / 1
$150, $19
Live Nation

That's more than one hand and she has more.

 

Not 1998 tour dates bitch that was more than 20 years ago ny6 Everyone sells out New York / Las Vegas. 

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3 hours ago, Jjang said:

Not 1998 tour dates bitch that was more than 20 years ago ny6 Everyone sells out New York / Las Vegas. 

Weren't you saying you can count her sold out shows with one hand? Aren't you clinging onto her 2009 stats? lmfao1She has had much better stats since then anyway.

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4 minutes ago, HninSi said:

Weren't you saying you can count her sold out shows with one hand? Aren't you clinging onto her 2009 stats? lmfao1She has had much better stats since then anyway.

I also used 2014 stats though :) You literally pulled up numbers that predated my existence just to show me that she sold out an arena in Vegas / NY - which everyone does. 

You can’t use the Lionel Richie tour.

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9 minutes ago, Jjang said:

I also used 2014 stats though :) You literally pulled up numbers that predated my existence just to show me that she sold out an arena in Vegas / NY - which everyone does. 

You can’t use the Lionel Richie tour.

So? She has performed to 10-20k+ crowds in 2016 and 2017, on her solo tour, too. And you will always cling onto her theatre stats.bey13

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3 minutes ago, Jjang said:

You mean in stadiums that have a Capacity of 80k? That’s not a success. aretha1

Her 2016 London O2 show drew more people than Madonna's. But I thought you are burnt on being roasted in @Urbanov's thread. jj4

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