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How the talentless Madonna became the best female musician?

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52 minutes ago, Urbanov said:

You clearly don’t and you’re a flop stan ari7 mess

When she moved to NY in late 70s she was catching on many little jobs that could give her a quick buck cause she almost spent her last money on a plane. She worked in a fast food restaurant plus she was also trying to be an aspiring model (while attending dance classes) and agreed to do some nude photoshoots. Lee Friedlander f.e. is one of the guys that did a whole photo shoot with her in 1979. She has a multiple photoshoots in that vein so yeah, that’s basically how she launched her career when moved to NYC. Facts.

The fact is that nothing from everything you said affected the beggining of her music career. Sorry.

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39 minutes ago, Urbanov said:

That’s your interpretation. Nowhere in my post I’m implying it’s a bad thing. Regine made it clear in the OP - he portrayed her as a “best female musician” and asked why is that. I said that she achieved her status thanks to gimmicks and sexual image. Also notice that I wasn’t the one who used term “slut” first in regards to other popstars to defend my fave in this discussion. 

 

Not every pornstar is a slut. Not every slut is a pornstar.

 

Next time make sure you have some space for throwing shade cause that reach was cute xx

I said it many times and you refused to talk about it. MUSIC. CRITICS. DON'T. JUDGE. HER. IMAGE. Face it and move on.

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8 minutes ago, Régine Filange said:

The fact is that nothing from everything you said affected the beggining of her music career. Sorry.

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And where I said it affected beggining of her MUSIC CAREER? You said she started her career with songs which is simply not correct and now that I proved you wrong you flip it to "it didn't affected her music career" LOL

 

That's how she launched her career since she moved to NY - fact.

Few years later after becoming more popular she decided to be more sexual and kept it that way for the rest of her career - fact.

 

The fact that you're acting like it's a bad thing though rip4 she's nowhere close to actual BEST FEMALE MUSICIANS and she is where she is thanks to gimmicks, different ideas for each eras and sexual image. Deal with it

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5 minutes ago, Régine Filange said:

said it many times and you refused to talk about it. MUSIC. CRITICS. DON'T. JUDGE. HER. IMAGE. Face it and move on.

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And I'm going to say that hundreds times so your slow brain can finally code it: music critics also don't put her next to actual best female MUSICIANS.

GP aka WE judge her MUSIC and IMAGE. What have you expected before making this thread? Do you even think before you do something? Something tells me you don't.

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17 minutes ago, Urbanov said:

And where I said it affected beggining of her MUSIC CAREER? You said she started her career with songs which is simply not correct and now that I proved you wrong you flip it to "it didn't affected her music career" LOL

She had a career before her music career just because of a nude photoshoot? That did NOTHING to her for the rest 3 - 4 years? lmfao1 She did it just to get some money cause she didn't have to eat. lmfao1Lmao I'm cackling lmfao1 Ok I'm gonna continue the game too, Madonna's "modeling career" (a naked photoshoot is considered a modeling career now) lmfao1never affected her music career.lmfao1I can't with this. lmfao1

15 minutes ago, Urbanov said:

And I'm going to say that hundreds times so your slow brain can finally code it: music critics also don't put her next to actual best female MUSICIANS.

GP aka WE judge her MUSIC and IMAGE. What have you expected before making this thread? Do you even think before you do something? Something tells me you don't.

I just looked some lists, RS's for example and she's there, actually in the top 2. ari4 Done with this, I trust RS's opinion more than yours, considering you're a person that don't even know Hotel California. ari4 I can't take srsl your posts about music anymore, now I see why you can overanalyze only the image. ari4

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This is tew much.ari9 like I stated, there is nothing wrong with what she did. Her charisma kept her afloat along with her self awarenessgaga14 Sex alone didn't help her sell given the 80s/90s was so conservativegaga11 she almost lost her career from it, so how did SEX keep her career for 20 plus years?

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3 minutes ago, Régine Filange said:

She had a career before her music career just because of a nude photoshoot? That did NOTHING to her for the rest 3 - 4 years? lmfao1 She did it just to get some money cause she didn't have to eat. lmfao1Lmao I'm cackling lmfao1 Ok I'm gonna continue the game too, Madonna's "modeling career" (a naked photoshoot is considered a modeling career now) lmfao1never affected her music career.lmfao1I can't with this. lmfao1

Wow you're really not playing dumb dddd

I said "beginnings of her career" when she moved to NY. She had to start somehow like everybody else so yes, she was catching on multiple different jobs and doing nude photoshoots was one of them. If you have actually read her biography you would know. It's not a game when you're the one being played by me with your own foolery dddd

8 minutes ago, Régine Filange said:

I just looked some lists, RS's for example and she's there, actually in the top 2. ari4

If you "just looked some lists" you would have no problem to show them? Madonna is at #36 on the 100 Greatest Artists. ARTIST not a MUSICIAN. Don't make a thread about something you can't differ cause that's fucking embarassing considering we are at page 10 lmfao2

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5 minutes ago, Régine Filange said:

All musicians are artists..

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..bye.

You still fail to see the nonsense in your arguments lmfao2

All musicians are artists but NOT ALL ARTISTS ARE MUSICIANS. Artist is a broader term that includes many different factors while "musician" solely focuses on playing instruments as a profession (is musically talented).

E M B A R A S S I N G that OP uses definitions that doesn't understand and thinks they can be used interchangeably lmfao2

 

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On 9/1/2018 at 12:19 PM, Sylk said:

Madonna is a hella talented performer and the true Queen of Pop but to claim she's the best female musician of all times when actual musicians like Annie Lennox, Joni Mitchell, Barbra Streisand, Carole King, Stevie Nicks etc live and breath is a new level of delusion. Legend Aretha isn't even in the ground yet. The audacity. Strictly speaking musically, Madonna didn't do anything innovative. Good sis Cyndi Lauper and many others already came around the same time as her and had the same sound. Madonna however relied on fame and compensated heavily for her obvious lack of talent by provocative imagery and lyricism. She did pick up the guitar later on and produce some of her own music but still strumming a few chords doesn't make you the best female musician of all time. 

She did however break barriers for women in the industry, in fashion, for control over their careers, bodies, artistic freedom, thrusting genres into mainstream culture but music wise she did nothing and ya'll need to calm down. No one hears anyone today and goes wow this reminds me of Madonna's sound, but if a girlie pops on a bra that ever so slightly resembles a cone shape that's when the comparisons jump out. Ya'll love to come for Mariah but that girl child had perfect pitch at 3 and wrote Vision of Love at 18. Madonna would croak before she figured the first half that songs composition. 

Anyways to rest my case, Madonna might be the greastest female artist of all time but she's nowhere near being the greatest musician. 

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Exactly. She has little to no impact music wise, it's all about visulas/marketing. For example, you have Janet who's not known as a singer, but you can hear her vocals being replicated by Britney, Ciara, Aaliyah etc.. Or many new girls try to sound like Rihanna singing with accent. No one tries to sound like Madonna.

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Madonna is quite possibly THE most talented musician of all time.

She is not the best singer, dancer, musician but she managed to exploit all of her best qualities and turned herself into the most influential female artist in the world.

 

She isn't flawless by snymeans but she is truly the best.

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18 hours ago, sledgehammer said:

Exactly. She has little to no impact music wise, it's all about visulas/marketing. For example, you have Janet who's not known as a singer, but you can hear her vocals being replicated by Britney, Ciara, Aaliyah etc.. Or many new girls try to sound like Rihanna singing with accent. No one tries to sound like Madonna.

It's all about good music*

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2 minutes ago, Régine Filange said:

Omg 10 pages. My first BG hit.

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When are you gonna be nominated for the FOTPers Hall of Fame?

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We are honestly the new legends now that the old members have left/died. Inb4 this post will get @Philip triggered enough to start campaigning for the next FOTP member awards again. jj2moo6 

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4 minutes ago, Madonna said:

When are you gonna be nominated for the FOTPers Hall of Fame?

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We are honestly the new legends now that the old members have left/died. Inb4 this post will get @Philip triggered enough to start campaigning for the next FOTP member awards again. jj2moo6 

hey jellybean 

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5 minutes ago, Madonna said:

When are you gonna be nominated for the FOTPers Hall of Fame?

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We are honestly the new legends now that the old members have left/died. Inb4 this post will get @Philip triggered enough to start campaigning for the next FOTP member awards again. jj2moo6 

I think I deserve at least a nomination. I tried by best and had many messy threads and moments this year.

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