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I don't think it'll fail. The roman empire already had a similar concept back in their days for all the countries they had colonized.

The difference is that now globalization hasn't been extended due to colonization by but due to capitalism, which is an economic and political system that is extended all over the world and is protected by not only politicians but BIG fortunes. Unless there is a worldwide movement where the people fight the powerful to try to tear down the system, nothing will change.

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No, it won't. 

I don't have to defend it, I don't have to rationionalize it, it simply won't happen. It might be easy to say that it will, or think that it will in this day and age where every crackpot political theory is suddenly the policy of governments, but globalism will not only survive this era where stupidity is the currency of the day, but will thrive. 

Not unless you're willing to go back 200 years and take mass media/communication and the economy out by it's knees. You're seeing this backlash by older people and conservatism, but I'll let you in on a little secret: it's the last hurrah. Brexit, Donald Trump, these are all manifestations of a last generation that is still mired in political thinking from a different era. Globalism isn't being undermined by this grassroots movement of people with 50-70 years of their lives ahead of them, it's being undermined by people with 20 years left in their lives, who feel as if their identity is being swallowed up by brown and yellow people. 

The difference is, over the next fifteen years, at least as far as the west goes, you're about to have a hundred and fifty million young people that are going to reach enfranchisement, and when that happens, fasten your seatbelts. No, not all of them will be ardently for it, but more than enough will. Conservatism lost that battle decades ago, they're only just now about to reap what they sowed . 

Now, what values drive globalism is up for debate, but even then I think that is a moot point, even that will cease to be a concern. Eventually, at some point, we'll stop seeing each other by our nationalities and ethnicities, and see them for what they are, a mere consequence of evolution. We'll eventually see people who suggest otherwise for what they are: stupid assholes, but I doubt any of us will live to see that.  

The west will survive this age of fucking stupid people, and the fucking stupidier people that put those people in power, and will be stronger for it. Besides, I don't see why edgy, young Ben Shapiro, Nigel Farage-esque faux-intellectuals want to get on this nationalism train, we know how this shit ends. 

 

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No. Globalisation has already succeeded immensely and has brought the world tremendous progress during the past centuries though. Of course it creates some problems and conflicts that wouldn't exist in an unglobalised world, however, that doesn't mean that the entire globalisation process is a failure. Even globalisation skeptics mostly warn against some effects of "overshooting" globalisation (such as mass migration, trillion dollar corporations, etc.). No one wants to completely reverse globalisation. Rejecting globalisation completely would mean rejecting prosperity and peace. rih14

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Capitalism and white/Christian fascism will be overturned by Western socialism and when the young and working class seize power, the world as a whole will get better. At least I hope so. To you Americans; stop voting for capitalists (also proto-fascists) and start endorsing Bernie Sanders. America has too much influence for the next election to not affect everyone around the world. Make it for the better. #FuckTrump #FuckWarren #VoteSanders

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5 hours ago, Sheezus said:

Capitalism and white/Christian fascism will be overturned by Western socialism and when the young and working class seize power, the world as a whole will get better. At least I hope so. To you Americans; stop voting for capitalists (also proto-fascists) and start endorsing Bernie Sanders. America has too much influence for the next election to not affect everyone around the world. Make it for the better. #FuckTrump #FuckWarren #VoteSanders

You do realize Warren is even further left than Sanders right?

 

With this kind of thinking, you could be the perfect #BernieBro. I assure you there are probably more Americans tired of Bernie and his fanatical supporters than with him. We need unity moving forward among progressives.

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40 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said:

You do realize Warren is even further left than Sanders right?

 

With this kind of thinking, you could be the perfect #BernieBro. I assure you there are probably more Americans tired of Bernie and his fanatical supporters than with him. We need unity moving forward among progressives.

I'll never understand this predilection for revolutionary socialism. It's fucking stupid. Socialism aside, evolutionary and incremental change has a far better track record for general property. When you just cut all of this shit off at once, you still have to deal with violence and class disparity, it's not going to go away. All this talk of burning the system down is only going to doom this country to four more years of this bullshit by orange Julius Caeser. 

I'll vote for Bernie, or Elizabeth or whoever wins the democratic primary, but this purity bullshit needs to stop. 

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2 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said:

Ed Markey, Elizabeth Warren, and Kamala Harris are the top three most progressive Senators by their votes here. Bernie is number 8. That's pretty low for him...

Good luck ending the wars, legalising pot, abolishing private prisons, removing money from politics, getting the Green New Deal and medicare for all with Warren. Your source looks bogus. Gimme some of her policy proposals that are more progressive than Bernie.

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19 minutes ago, Sheezus said:

Good luck ending the wars, legalising pot, abolishing private prisons, removing money from politics, getting the Green New Deal and medicare for all with Warren. Your source looks bogus. Gimme some of her policy proposals that are more progressive than Bernie.

Guns.

Done!

And sis they literally have an entire page describing how they come up with their scores...

I'm pretty sure Warren is anti-war. She has literally been one of the biggest voices in removing corporate money from politics. She literally proposed a $2 trillion dollars clean energy plan. And she came out from the start of her campaign in favor of Medicare for All, now she has only shifted slightly by wanting to have a transitional period which is favored by most Americans.

Literally just go to her website. She has probably one of the most comprehensive and thorough policy plan(s) in the entire race.

I'm tired of this narrative that you're pushing, and that the Bernie Bros are pushing, that Bernie is the only option. No. Absolutely no. I would vote for any of these Democrats before voting for 45 or sitting at home and letting him win another term.

The left needs to stop eating each other and unite at the convention, or we lose 2020 and we lose all of our values and morals for another four God damned years.

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1 hour ago, Sheezus said:

Good luck ending the wars, legalising pot, abolishing private prisons, removing money from politics, getting the Green New Deal and medicare for all with Warren. Your source looks bogus. Gimme some of her policy proposals that are more progressive than Bernie.

Progressive politics are in the eye on the beholder, darling.   

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On 12/4/2019 at 6:11 PM, Sheezus said:

Capitalism and white/Christian fascism will be overturned by Western socialism and when the young and working class seize power, the world as a whole will get better. At least I hope so. To you Americans; stop voting for capitalists (also proto-fascists) and start endorsing Bernie Sanders. America has too much influence for the next election to not affect everyone around the world. Make it for the better. #FuckTrump #FuckWarren #VoteSanders

The only system that ever accepted so openly lgbt is capitalism. There are left and right-wing oriented fascism as well. Do not attach that shit to any of them. It is much more related to a person, someone who retains too much power under a democracy or is a dictator and take fascists decisions. Bolsonaro is not a fascist for example, but the brazilian left always call any opponent a fascist, banalizing the concept. They even called marina silva a fascist. 
Politics is way more complicated than this basic direct assumptions you take probably based on the politicians that say what you wanna hear.

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4 hours ago, The Sorcerer said:

The only system that ever accepted so openly lgbt is capitalism. There are left and right-wing oriented fascism as well. Do not attach that shit to any of them. It is much more related to a person, someone who retains too much power under a democracy or is a dictator and take fascists decisions. Bolsonaro is not a fascist for example, but the brazilian left always call any opponent a fascist, banalizing the concept. They even called marina silva a fascist. 
Politics is way more complicated than this basic direct assumptions you take probably based on the politicians that say what you wanna hear.

Capitalism only accepted the LGBT community when they realized they can make money out of gay/trans people and their sub-cultures. I do agree that the word fascist gets thrown around pretty lightly but Bolsonaro's overall ideals and the fact of what he did in the Amazonas with literally no care for the native american population that have lived there for centuries and survived portuguese inquisition is kinda nicki5. Also the fact it affected neighbouring countries, I don't even live near the amazonas but i remember temperature rose significantly during that time dd. 
 If you couple all that together, among other things, it's pretty understandable imo

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2 hours ago, rhi said:

Capitalism only accepted the LGBT community when they realized they can make money out of gay/trans people and their sub-cultures. I do agree that the word fascist gets thrown around pretty lightly but Bolsonaro's overall ideals and the fact of what he did in the Amazonas with literally no care for the native american population that have lived there for centuries and survived portuguese inquisition is kinda nicki5. Also the fact it affected neighbouring countries, I don't even live near the amazonas but i remember temperature rose significantly during that time dd. 
 If you couple all that together, among other things, it's pretty understandable imo

What? Bolsonaro did what to the amazon??? Its deforestation peaked during lula’s goverment, when marina silva, a green party politician was the environment minister. Several ngo were arrested because were caught causing fire! I find it really amazing how there are hundreds of thoudands of suposed ngos on amazon and none in the northern brazil, where ppl die from poverty. Yes, i trust these people for sure. They are heartbroken with the forest and dont give a shit about poor people. The hipocrisy.

 
i agree when you say capitalism accept gays cause of money. But its bettet than no acceptance at all. 
here in brazil i see left wing people praising che guevara and cuba, where some months ago a gay parade were put violently down by police. Oh the socialism. Meanwhile, in brazils “fascist” bolsonaro we have the biggest gay parade taking place with no censorship.  

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