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[Snow 19,469]

1 hour ago, Amanda Laura said:

Ariana or Taylor!!!! Please 

Well Ms. @Ghostface is gonna be hosting Ariana's so that'll happen! 

I'll see about Taylor. Her discography is.. massive  

[Ghostface 17,659]

5 hours ago, Snow said:

Well Ms. @Ghostface is gonna be hosting Ariana's so that'll happen! 

I'll see about Taylor. Her discography is.. massive  

We don't have all needed Taylor songs from before, at least, reputation.

I mean, we are getting another 20+ new songs through re-releases ( if not more ) and maybe those should be let compete as well. Besides, if she keeps releasing them this year, her section should be floating.

Gaga's and Ariana's are not necessarily huge, but a bit different from the rest of the game threads opened at the moment.

[Max 10,884]

I want you to stay, wooohoooooooo

[Snow 19,469]

On 4/15/2021 at 6:52 AM, Ghostface said:

We don't have all needed Taylor songs from before, at least, reputation.

I mean, we are getting another 20+ new songs through re-releases ( if not more ) and maybe those should be let compete as well. Besides, if she keeps releasing them this year, her section should be floating.

Gaga's and Ariana's are not necessarily huge, but a bit different from the rest of the game threads opened at the moment.

Wait I didn't see this reply.  What do you mean we don't have all needed Taylor before rep though?

And yes she'll probably release every few months so I think she'll be pretty safe overall. Ariana & Gaga came last in one of the last monthly post counts, and Gaga went into probation, so they need more help. 

[Ghostface 17,659]

50 minutes ago, Snow said:

Wait I didn't see this reply.  What do you mean we don't have all needed Taylor before rep though?

And yes she'll probably release every few months so I think she'll be pretty safe overall. Ariana & Gaga came last in one of the last monthly post counts, and Gaga went into probation, so they need more help. 

No problem, Snowball.

What I mean regarding Taylor is that we now know we don't have her whole discography for a similar kind of game since we are getting new tracks with each new re-release. It would be different having competition without, for example, That's When now that we know about the song and it may have greater chance of advancing in comparison to some of the other songs. So, I think it is best to wait for all of the "new" songs to be released and then see what kind of game it can be.

[Snow 19,469]

20 hours ago, Ghostface said:

No problem, Snowball.

What I mean regarding Taylor is that we now know we don't have her whole discography for a similar kind of game since we are getting new tracks with each new re-release. It would be different having competition without, for example, That's When now that we know about the song and it may have greater chance of advancing in comparison to some of the other songs. So, I think it is best to wait for all of the "new" songs to be released and then see what kind of game it can be.

Ah yes, I agree. Newer songs will probably have higher chance to go through to the next round because of the bias. 
Although, I'm not too sure if this forum is gonna survive through all the re-recordings. I feel like it could potentially close before then. Plus, even after she's done with the re-recordings, she's gonna go into her next album era later on that year (2022) 

[Ghostface 17,659]

2 minutes ago, Snow said:

Ah yes, I agree. Newer songs will probably have higher chance to go through to the next round because of the bias. 
Although, I'm not too sure if this forum is gonna survive through all the re-recordings. I feel like it could potentially close before then. Plus, even after she's done with the re-recordings, she's gonna go into her next album era later on that year (2022) 

I am not sure Bye Bye Baby, for example, would beat, let's say, Mr. Perfectly Fine or You're Not Sorry or 22, but maybe?

Isn't it expected for all of the re-recordings, except reputation, to drop during 2021 though? I don't see forum falling off completely in 8 months?

Well, we won't be waiting for her next official studio album, because then we wouldn't be getting game started at all, but having complete collection of all 9 albums would be perfection. Besides, that wouldn't amount to more than 200 songs when all songs are considered and it would take up to 4 months of competition for members to determine the best one no matter the format.

[Snow 19,469]

58 minutes ago, Ghostface said:

I am not sure Bye Bye Baby, for example, would beat, let's say, Mr. Perfectly Fine or You're Not Sorry or 22, but maybe?

Isn't it expected for all of the re-recordings, except reputation, to drop during 2021 though? I don't see forum falling off completely in 8 months?

Well, we won't be waiting for her next official studio album, because then we wouldn't be getting game started at all, but having complete collection of all 9 albums would be perfection. Besides, that wouldn't amount to more than 200 songs when all songs are considered and it would take up to 4 months of competition for members to determine the best one no matter the format.

Well, maybe not that. But Mr. Perfectly Fine would very easily whoop over half of her discography as it is right now. 
I don't know about all of the re-recordings dropping this year anymore.. her pace is too slow currently. We may get the last one very early into 2022  Either way, this forum is already not doing well. I hate to say that cause this is the internet home of so many people, but we've declined very badly in the last few months. Pop culture being as dry as it is has certainly not helped. We will need some major turnaround if we want to survive 2021.  

I am not exaggerating when I say that, as far as non-Admins go, you are the core pillar of this community thanks to your game threads. I have seen multiple people saying that your games are literally the only reason they even log on FOTP anymore. It's the only one unique thing this forum is offering right now. But when your threads go, so will they.  

[Snow 19,469]

@Ghostface also, any tip on hosting your "___ Got Talent" type games? I just saw your final Rihanna post and it seems like you run a very tight, organized ship. Anything you do specially? Maybe I can follow for Dua when I host hers in a few days.  

[Ghostface 17,659]

43 minutes ago, Snow said:

Well, maybe not that. But Mr. Perfectly Fine would very easily whoop over half of her discography as it is right now. 
I don't know about all of the re-recordings dropping this year anymore.. her pace is too slow currently. We may get the last one very early into 2022  Either way, this forum is already not doing well. I hate to say that cause this is the internet home of so many people, but we've declined very badly in the last few months. Pop culture being as dry as it is has certainly not helped. We will need some major turnaround if we want to survive 2021.  

I am not exaggerating when I say that, as far as non-Admins go, you are the core pillar of this community thanks to your game threads. I have seen multiple people saying that your games are literally the only reason they even log on FOTP anymore. It's the only one unique thing this forum is offering right now. But when your threads go, so will they.  

That's When and We Were Happy even more so. Oh and You All Over Me of course.

Yeah, I also don't think they are coming out every 2 months, but maybe every 3 months?

Well, as far as the forum goes, I have more FOTP Faves and other Games stacked, I am fleshing out ideas and while I do understand it got pretty slow and half-absent, we can do as much as we can while we are here. Active members are willing to participate and are responsive, so that's always good. I also feel like this forum is somehow small, but close community of people and while fresh faces are always nice add-on, it is important that things work properly the way they are. I hope we will actually endure this year. I wanted to do Taylor game, but her re-recordings put a pause on that, because we would be missing of over 30 "new" songs as it is and that can actually make a change during the game.

I am really glad people are enjoying those threads, even though they aren't elaborate competitions ( I get that they are more practical and easier to navigate being they way they are ), but I am glad they can pop up.

42 minutes ago, Snow said:

@Ghostface also, any tip on hosting your "___ Got Talent" type games? I just saw your final Rihanna post and it seems like you run a very tight, organized ship. Anything you do specially? Maybe I can follow for Dua when I host hers in a few days.  

I usually start with numbers game - meaning: I check number of songs/singles/albums certain artist has in contention and start from there. I usually try to bring in mechanics of some type of real-life competition or game into it ( Got Talent being prime example ), but I don't follow that tactic narrowly.

Since you are creating Dua game thread, I suggest you include whole her discography since she has 2 albums and few tracks here and there. She has up to ~50 songs, so I think you should do this: choosing the best album track separately and choosing the best single separately and then facing them against each other in the final ( by single, I also mean promotional singles, limited region singles and such ).

Since there are less singles than album tracks ( obviously ), singles should compete every 2 or 3 days between album tracks duels.

This is in short, firstly fleshed out for Katy, then for Gaga and then left behind, because I think Katy and Gaga could benefit from other kind of format and I think it actually suits Dua well. Please feel free to get in contact for more fleshing out the whole thing.

[Snow 19,469]

1 hour ago, Ghostface said:

That's When and We Were Happy even more so. Oh and You All Over Me of course.

Yeah, I also don't think they are coming out every 2 months, but maybe every 3 months?

Well, as far as the forum goes, I have more FOTP Faves and other Games stacked, I am fleshing out ideas and while I do understand it got pretty slow and half-absent, we can do as much as we can while we are here. Active members are willing to participate and are responsive, so that's always good. I also feel like this forum is somehow small, but close community of people and while fresh faces are always nice add-on, it is important that things work properly the way they are. I hope we will actually endure this year. I wanted to do Taylor game, but her re-recordings put a pause on that, because we would be missing of over 30 "new" songs as it is and that can actually make a change during the game.

I am really glad people are enjoying those threads, even though they aren't elaborate competitions ( I get that they are more practical and easier to navigate being they way they are ), but I am glad they can pop up.

That's When, maybe. The others.. well!  And yes 3 months is what I'm thinking as well.  

And yes I agree! I think the forum could use a bit more games & events though, those seems to always lead to a user peak of some sort for some time. The Member Awards for example were excellent, especially considering over 45+ unique members were nominated. Prevented us from having a super sharp drop after the Election season.  

I do hope that we'll survive this year too, but we're on a slippery slope downwards so I'm not too confident on it.  I do wonder what kind of other section games we can come up with though. The current "Got Talent" format is fun and all, don't get me wrong, but they're kinda a "one time done deal" kinda game. Like you can't really do a re-match for Rihanna, so you'd need to come up with something else. It's very much buying time.  

[Snow 19,469]

1 hour ago, Ghostface said:

I usually start with numbers game - meaning: I check number of songs/singles/albums certain artist has in contention and start from there. I usually try to bring in mechanics of some type of real-life competition or game into it ( Got Talent being prime example ), but I don't follow that tactic narrowly.

Since you are creating Dua game thread, I suggest you include whole her discography since she has 2 albums and few tracks here and there. She has up to ~50 songs, so I think you should do this: choosing the best album track separately and choosing the best single separately and then facing them against each other in the final ( by single, I also mean promotional singles, limited region singles and such ).

Since there are less singles than album tracks ( obviously ), singles should compete every 2 or 3 days between album tracks duels.

This is in short, firstly fleshed out for Katy, then for Gaga and then left behind, because I think Katy and Gaga could benefit from other kind of format and I think it actually suits Dua well. Please feel free to get in contact for more fleshing out the whole thing.

Oh yes! I am including all of Dua's songs, she totals up to 54, ignoring most of Club Future Nostalgia. So far I've planned out by randomizing the entire list and dividing them into groups for 4's for matchup. I do like your idea though, but I'm not super sure about it. Katy & Gaga both have notably strong singles, but Dua's feel more even with the album track, usually. 
I will definitely think more about this though! I might also PM you. 

[Ghostface 17,659]

12 minutes ago, Snow said:

That's When, maybe. The others.. well!  And yes 3 months is what I'm thinking as well.  

And yes I agree! I think the forum could use a bit more games & events though, those seems to always lead to a user peak of some sort for some time. The Member Awards for example were excellent, especially considering over 45+ unique members were nominated. Prevented us from having a super sharp drop after the Election season.  

I do hope that we'll survive this year too, but we're on a slippery slope downwards so I'm not too confident on it.  I do wonder what kind of other section games we can come up with though. The current "Got Talent" format is fun and all, don't get me wrong, but they're kinda a "one time done deal" kinda game. Like you can't really do a re-match for Rihanna, so you'd need to come up with something else. It's very much buying time.  

We will stop at That's When then.

Truth to be told, I enjoy preparing and hosting Games as in games more rather than FOTP Faves' games, because Faves's sections are more limiting ideas-wise and you can't really implement many other game formats ( Lana's original one was Associations game, but it would be hard to follow through with it since I am not sure how active it can get ), because I am aware people have other things to do, so the games need to be practical and fast-responding. Ariana's Stand Last was inspiration to me the most.

Like you said, these games are still one-time thing - they can last for months, but not infinitely, so we kind of get back to drawing board once the end hits. I guess I am content with those game threads actually making some waves in the first place.

6 minutes ago, Snow said:

Oh yes! I am including all of Dua's songs, she totals up to 54, ignoring most of Club Future Nostalgia. So far I've planned out by randomizing the entire list and dividing them into groups for 4's for matchup. I do like your idea though, but I'm not super sure about it. Katy & Gaga both have notably strong singles, but Dua's feel more even with the album track, usually. 
I will definitely think more about this though! I might also PM you. 

Yeah sure, it was really an idea and I actually understand that Bad Romance may not be the same as Levitating to some ( you probably have a point ), so please feel free to arrange it any way you may think it would be the best option and I am open for reading about ideas.

[Snow 19,469]

11 minutes ago, Ghostface said:

We will stop at That's When then.

Truth to be told, I enjoy preparing and hosting Games as in games more rather than FOTP Faves' games, because Faves's sections are more limiting ideas-wise and you can't really implement many other game formats ( Lana's original one was Associations game, but it would be hard to follow through with it since I am not sure how active it can get ), because I am aware people have other things to do, so the games need to be practical and fast-responding. Ariana's Stand Last was inspiration to me the most.

Like you said, these games are still one-time thing - they can last for months, but not infinitely, so we kind of get back to drawing board once the end hits. I guess I am content with those game threads actually making some waves in the first place.

Yeah I can definitely understand that. And yet at the same time people actually enjoy the Fave section games more, because it helps the residents save said sections. You've practically single-handedly saved a bunch of sections for months now, and I don't think you realize how grateful the residents are. Yesterday I actually saw someone semi-complaining about you not hosting a game for Dua's section, to which I replied that I had one planned under your permission. So yeah, they are most definitely in demand. 

And yes for the games to actually work, they cannot require a lot of effort. FOTPers are lazy, they want something quick they can do under 30 seconds (and that's being VERY generous)  I'm kinda a part of that too, I have to admit I never participated in Last Stand because the OP was so damn long and I just couldn't be bothered to read it.  I did notice the Big Brother format is VERY popular on this forum though, people love it when they can give minimal effort but still be involved one way or the other.  I actually had BB: Revival planned out for Selena, as well as a general Big Brother season in collab with another member, but never actually got around to hosting it. 

And yeah, coming up with forum game ideas is NOT easy and even more so with the limitations of the section games. But they're kinda in most demand now.  Although, people LOVED the seasons of Big Brother hosted by Ms. Divine.. and as far as that goes, I think that's the only general forum event/game that has remained consistently popular here. Not even Slasher was that popular. 

Perhaps I should join the Events Team, just for the kii. I think we could come up with some magic together, probably.  

[Snow 19,469]

20 minutes ago, Ghostface said:

Yeah sure, it was really an idea and I actually understand that Bad Romance may not be the same as Levitating to some ( you probably have a point ), so please feel free to arrange it any way you may think it would be the best option and I am open for reading about ideas.

Upon thinking further about it, Dua has 3 ultimate fan favorites: Don't Start Now, New Rules and Levitating. Also Electricity if we wanna stretch it a bit. Every other single other than that can very easily lose to album tracks. So yeah I don't think I'll do Singles vs. Tracks because of two fears: 1) a subpar, underwhelming finale matchup 2) boring track vs. track rounds. 

HOWEVER I do want to make it different from your game even just a little bit, but still keeping it relatively vanila. But that's proven to be harder than I thought. 

[Ghostface 17,659]

42 minutes ago, Snow said:

Yeah I can definitely understand that. And yet at the same time people actually enjoy the Fave section games more, because it helps the residents save said sections. You've practically single-handedly saved a bunch of sections for months now, and I don't think you realize how grateful the residents are. Yesterday I actually saw someone semi-complaining about you not hosting a game for Dua's section, to which I replied that I had one planned under your permission. So yeah, they are most definitely in demand. 

And yes for the games to actually work, they cannot require a lot of effort. FOTPers are lazy, they want something quick they can do under 30 seconds (and that's being VERY generous)  I'm kinda a part of that too, I have to admit I never participated in Last Stand because the OP was so damn long and I just couldn't be bothered to read it.  I did notice the Big Brother format is VERY popular on this forum though, people love it when they can give minimal effort but still be involved one way or the other.  I actually had BB: Revival planned out for Selena, as well as a general Big Brother season in collab with another member, but never actually got around to hosting it. 

And yeah, coming up with forum game ideas is NOT easy and even more so with the limitations of the section games. But they're kinda in most demand now.  Although, people LOVED the seasons of Big Brother hosted by Ms. Divine.. and as far as that goes, I think that's the only general forum event/game that has remained consistently popular here. Not even Slasher was that popular. 

Perhaps I should join the Events Team, just for the kii. I think we could come up with some magic together, probably.  

I enjoy the Faves' Games too, it's definitely positive, but sometimes I feel like we are dragging even though that must be because of other stuff I am doing throughout day, so I am kind of exhausted when I hit the PC.

I am really grateful people feel that way and I can actually tell since they are definitely willing to join and participate, so win-win. I actually had Dua in mind since I was very interested in her concept for Future Nostalgia and I wanted to do some kind of club-like game thread ( musical chairs-tinged game ), but ideas are sometimes overwhelming and my organization skills, while sharp enough, not the sharpest ever, so I get to completely different section and do another game instead.

I don't blame you for Stand Last, and I actually understand why people wouldn't be fond of literal Rule books I post, but I can just open the thread and begin.

Big Brother is definitely the longest-running format, but since Scattergories and now with Cards Aagainst Humanity, I want to explore other new formats as well. Besides, I hesitate of continuing games Divine and others created and hosted since they have their rightful print and it's their project after all. As of these other games, they don't need to stick, but change of pace and fresh games are always welcome and fun, especially when you are hosting and people are playing them.

Oh please, you are more than welcome whenever reporter job gets the best of you. You are pretty agile and resourceful and you have rigid enough of a stance in your threads for members to follow, which is all perfect. Events Team is ideal for my schedule since it is not as demanding. I was complete fail at Promo Team. Disaster and a half and I still feel bed for my colleagues there at the time.

37 minutes ago, Snow said:

Upon thinking further about it, Dua has 3 ultimate fan favorites: Don't Start Now, New Rules and Levitating. Also Electricity if we wanna stretch it a bit. Every other single other than that can very easily lose to album tracks. So yeah I don't think I'll do Singles vs. Tracks because of two fears: 1) a subpar, underwhelming finale matchup 2) boring track vs. track rounds. 

HOWEVER I do want to make it different from your game even just a little bit, but still keeping it relatively vanila. But that's proven to be harder than I thought. 

And no worries, you can keep it both the same or completely different than the other games - you can always ask about any ideas, because I am always brainstorming things.

[Snow 19,469]

10 hours ago, Ghostface said:

I enjoy the Faves' Games too, it's definitely positive, but sometimes I feel like we are dragging even though that must be because of other stuff I am doing throughout day, so I am kind of exhausted when I hit the PC.

I am really grateful people feel that way and I can actually tell since they are definitely willing to join and participate, so win-win. I actually had Dua in mind since I was very interested in her concept for Future Nostalgia and I wanted to do some kind of club-like game thread ( musical chairs-tinged game ), but ideas are sometimes overwhelming and my organization skills, while sharp enough, not the sharpest ever, so I get to completely different section and do another game instead.

I don't blame you for Stand Last, and I actually understand why people wouldn't be fond of literal Rule books I post, but I can just open the thread and begin.

Big Brother is definitely the longest-running format, but since Scattergories and now with Cards Aagainst Humanity, I want to explore other new formats as well. Besides, I hesitate of continuing games Divine and others created and hosted since they have their rightful print and it's their project after all. As of these other games, they don't need to stick, but change of pace and fresh games are always welcome and fun, especially when you are hosting and people are playing them.

Oh please, you are more than welcome whenever reporter job gets the best of you. You are pretty agile and resourceful and you have rigid enough of a stance in your threads for members to follow, which is all perfect. Events Team is ideal for my schedule since it is not as demanding. I was complete fail at Promo Team. Disaster and a half and I still feel bed for my colleagues there at the time.

And no worries, you can keep it both the same or completely different than the other games - you can always ask about any ideas, because I am always brainstorming things.

Yeah it's very understandable. I've pointed out before that you spend upwards 45 minutes daily just on them, and honestly that's some dedication but that kind of routine also would burn anyone out. Ever since you've hosted them I've seen you much less outside of those threads and I think someone mentioned that they missed when you "behaved like a normal member" which is a kii but

Yeah that is also why I felt the need to give Dua a more unique version of the game, because of the potential the theme has.. but with the limitations and FOTPers being lazy, it's hard to come up anything. People have proven repeatedly they didn't want anything too complicated or anything that involves too much thinking. 

And yeah I can understand that. Though, Divine isn't around anymore and she's not like that anyways -- I don't think she'd make a fuss about it if you were to continue the Big Brother series. But you will indeed have some very big shoes to fill. Besides, Big Brother isn't her own original concept, it's based off a popular TV show of the same name.  I honestly want games that can last multiple seasons.. like yes our one-off games are great, but the multi-season games are always more popular. I know for a fact that some people STILL want Slasher, for example. 

And on the Events Team, well   check your inbox ghost bestie.